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Offline stefcep2

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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #44 from previous page: December 23, 2010, 05:32:40 AM »
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Also, aga in 8bit will always be slow, knock it down to 64 and it'll purr along nicely, even with an 040.

 
Sure if all you want to run is workbench,  register paint program, or a WP or text editor.

For software like ImageFX, Photogenics, Arte Effect, any 24 bit renderer, you can't compare AGA with a 24 bit board.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2010, 05:35:46 AM »
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1: they both have their differences but both perform the said task in slighlty  different manor...

i seem to recall that AIBB was a better way to benchmark.  Not sure why.
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2: You can't run AIBB on an 060 and you don't even get to the option screen it crashes as soon as the checking system text appears, look it's just did it again, you must be using a hacked version ???

Just the 6.5 version that comes with classic workbench.

Check the aminet links of other people doing AIBB benchmarks with an '060.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2010, 06:15:54 AM »
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i seem to recall that AIBB was a better way to benchmark.  Not sure why.


Just the 6.5 version that comes with classic workbench.

Check the aminet links of other people doing AIBB benchmarks with an '060.


Damn... Im knackered it's 6:07 and haven't slept since Tuesday but this AIBB thing has been bugging me... :(

Quick disassemble of AIBB V6.5 (the one I'm using) reveals it can only handle up to 040 boards, so apart from the fact it crashes on an 060 it would be pretty pointless using benchmarks form AIBB to compare 060 boards.

Right I'm off to bed now cos me eye are hanging oot ma heid and my last brain cell has only the strength to guide me to my bed...

So it goodnight from me.. and its goodnight from him... :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2010, 06:19:57 AM »
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i seem to recall that AIBB was a better way to benchmark.  Not sure why.
Just the 6.5 version that comes with classic workbench.

Check the aminet links of other people doing AIBB benchmarks with an '060.

Easy - just config AIBB for 68000/68010 with FPU via tooltypes or command line.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2010, 09:11:23 AM »
Sysspeed is the best benchmark and runs on 060.

About the AGA, i think it is a damn good chipset with amazing performance and speed for something that old. I run everything with it (productivity software, emulator including VGA modes for PCTask or Shapeshifter) very nicely.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2010, 10:52:31 AM »
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Sysspeed is the best benchmark and runs on 060.

About the AGA, i think it is a damn good chipset with amazing performance and speed for something that old. I run everything with it (productivity software, emulator including VGA modes for PCTask or Shapeshifter) very nicely.

I don't agree. OCS was awesome for it's time. 8-bit graphics wasn't that much of a leap and the PC and Mac were already there with SVGA/256 color in chunky mode. I guess that was the era of the expandable Wintel box and one reason it is the dominant platform.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2010, 11:42:45 AM »
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An 030 is also more compatible. If you use your Amiga mainly for games you will be happy with 030.
If you use mostly Apps/Productivity the 060 (or 040) will give you noticeably more speed and would be worth trying to get a hold of one.


Only problem is the 030, save the fact it has higher clock speeds, is no real improvement on an 020. A 28mhz 020 and 30mhz 030 are more or less the same performance in reality.

So my question is....is anyone working on a 50mhz 020 based card if it would cost less? Or are 030s the lowest spec 680x0 based CPU still produced?
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2010, 11:56:26 AM »
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Only problem is the 030, save the fact it has higher clock speeds, is no real improvement on an 020. A 28mhz 020 and 30mhz 030 are more or less the same performance in reality.

So my question is....is anyone working on a 50mhz 020 based card if it would cost less? Or are 030s the lowest spec 680x0 based CPU still produced?

The 030 might have a handy MMU on it.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2010, 12:45:59 PM »
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Having an '060 makes your penis bigger.


yeah its like owing a porsche... hahaha!
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2010, 02:59:00 PM »
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...Find it rather odd that you manged to get AIBB running on an 060 board as AIBB is not compatible with an 060 board, just launched it right now to check and am sitting here staring at the old bright orange software failure message ERROR 8000 000B... :confused:

Do you have a special version of AIBB ???


To run AIBB on 68060 systems, use the following ToolTypes, then it should work.

CPU=68000
FPU=68060
MMU=68060
CPUSPEED=60.0
FPUSPEED=60.0

Replace the CPU- and FPU-Speed settings with the speed of your CPU.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2010, 03:07:05 PM »
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To run AIBB on 68060 systems, use the following ToolTypes, then it should work.

CPU=68000
FPU=68060
MMU=68060
CPUSPEED=60.0
FPUSPEED=60.0

Replace the CPU- and FPU-Speed settings with the speed of your CPU.


Just gonna give that a try thanks, let you know in a couple of minutes... :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2010, 03:13:06 PM »
Just gave it a go... non luck I'm afraid... :(

same result as before = Software Failure 8000 000B :(

Anyway not much point as it doesn't contain any code to specifically test an 060 for benchmark results... reckon I'll just stick to SysSpeed... :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2010, 10:51:33 PM »
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Just gave it a go... non luck I'm afraid... :(

same result as before = Software Failure 8000 000B :(

Anyway not much point as it doesn't contain any code to specifically test an 060 for benchmark results... reckon I'll just stick to SysSpeed... :)


i used to get that error when using earlier version 68060 libraries, or using a non-commodore 68040.library ( the commodore 68040.library should be 43888 bytes).

on CS II A4000 68060 my libs are set up using these instructions
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To get a layout which works for every processor use this:     *
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*    37.30 CBM 68040.library -> libs:68040old.library             *
*    Phase5 68040.library -> libs:68040new.library                *
*    Phase5 68060.library -> libs:68060.library                   *
*    Phase5 68040dummy.library -> libs:68040.library

http://phase5.a1k.org/index.php?driverslibraries
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2010, 11:43:17 PM »
@ stefcep2

I do use the latest 060 library (Ver46.15)

However on my setup the 040 new/dummy or real libraries are not used or needed so I deleted them years ago. Just the 68060.library is required with my Blizzard060/PPC setup... :)



Anyway as I say SysInfo is a better tool when it comes to benchmarking an 060 :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2010, 01:24:49 AM »
cgxsystem and cybergraphics.library with no RTG card?
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2010, 09:14:37 AM »
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cgxsystem and cybergraphics.library with no RTG card?


I know, I've had to put them in just now cos a version of Frodo (the C64 emulator) I'm modifying just now requires them... :)
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