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Offline Franko

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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2010, 07:37:39 PM »
My GVP030 Amiga is fine for games and such, but my Blizzard060 & Blizzard 060/PPC miggies are the bees knees when it come to using an Amiga on OS 3.x... :)

If you want the best all round performance and the ability to create and play MP3s, edit large AIFF audio files, faster GFX packages D.T.P. etc... then it's well worth the money to buy a second hand Blizzard060 with or without PPC.

If games are your main thing then an 030 would do just fine and the more ram you get for it the better, the only problem I see with the new AmiKit one is the lack of an FPU which even on an 030 comes in quite handy for a lot of things... :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2010, 07:58:58 PM »
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060 speeds up whole system. If you have Indivision for example and want to run HighGFX modes, they will be faster with 060.



I wasn't aware that 060 would have much influence on graphics operations on AGA. Does the HighGFX mode use the CPU significantly?

I have 060 system below and a Blizzard 030 1200 system that both use native AGA. In day to day use of OS3.9 there is little difference. The 060 comes into it's own when running CPU thrashing code though. In my estimation twice as fast as an 040. And 040 is about four times as fast as 030.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2010, 08:01:19 PM »
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I wasn't aware that 060 would have much influence on graphics operations on AGA. Does the HighGFX mode use the CPU significantly?

I have 060 system below and a Blizzard 030 1200 system that both use native AGA. In day to day use of OS3.9 there is little difference. The 060 comes into it's own when running CPU thrashing code though. In my estimation twice as fast as an 040. And 040 is about four times as fast as 030.


With an 060 and FBlit installed the whole Workbench experience is a joy to use, everything is much faster & smoother... :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2010, 08:07:09 PM »
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With an 060 and FBlit installed the whole Workbench experience is a joy to use, everything is much faster & smoother... :)


I admit I'm not using FBlit. That's something to do over the silly season then )
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2010, 08:18:00 PM »
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I admit I'm not using FBlit. That's something to do over the silly season then )


CMQ060
BlazeWCP
FBlit
FText
MCP

& a Blizkick patched rom will give an Amiga to be proud of, you be hard pushed to find a better set up than this... :)

I'll need to post some benchmarks to show the difference this makes... :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2010, 08:41:30 PM »
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CMQ060
BlazeWCP
FBlit
FText
MCP

& a Blizkick patched rom will give an Amiga to be proud of, you be hard pushed to find a better set up than this... :)

I'll need to post some benchmarks to show the difference this makes... :)


never heard of fblit or the others, what are they?
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2010, 09:05:45 PM »
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never heard of fblit or the others, what are they?


Not sure if you kidding here, but just in case your not... :)

CMQ060 = Patches some of the rom routines with faster 060 code that is mainly used by Workbench, intuition, graphics & dos librarys...
BlazeWCP = Patches certain blitter routines with faster code...
FBlit = Patch many of the OS GFX & blitter functions with much faster highly optimised routines and move a lot of gfx data to fast ram, thus freeing up  chip ram...
FText = Patches any OS Text output (eg:cli/shell) and make a significant difference to text ouput...
MCP = Is a user configurable with GUI prog that patches lots of stuff on you amiga to make things faster and better...

All are available on Aminet and easy enough to install and set up in your startup-sequence once installed they can be forgotten about and the saving in chip ram alone are worth it as well of course the fact that the over speed increase to your Amiga is pretty amazing... :)

I couldn't go back to an Amiga that runs without having these installed as they really get the best out of an 060 based Amiga... :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2010, 09:24:42 PM »
Don't be fooled by 3.9, it's not as fast as a good 3.1 install, hence Classic WB 3.1 Full.
 
Having a Blizzard 1260-50, 2060-50 I don't see a big preformance increase when running 3.9.
Except when I use the CS PPC 060-50/200 with a 10K SCSI HD, then it's really a bit tad faster than 3.1 :)
 
But I just got the Blizzard 2060, so I have to test with the SCSI controller, but it is still 50 pins and not 68 pins UW.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2010, 09:35:22 PM »
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Don't be fooled by 3.9, it's not as fast as a good 3.1 install, hence Classic WB 3.1 Full.
 
Having a Blizzard 1260-50, 2060-50 I don't see a big preformance increase when running 3.9.
Except when I use the CS PPC 060-50/200 with a 10K SCSI HD, then it's really a bit tad faster than 3.1 :)
 
But I just got the Blizzard 2060, so I have to test with the SCSI controller, but it is still 50 pins and not 68 pins UW.


@ Buzzfuzz

I couldn't agree more about 3.9 with you, too bloated and not much of an increase in speed when using that. Oddly enough though 3.5 is much better and that's what I want back to... :)

I'll post some SysSpeed benchmarks later on showing the increase in speed that can be achieved using the utils I mentioned earlier for folk to judge for themselves... :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2010, 09:42:16 PM »
@Franko

hm, a guy who sold me A4000, game coder, also used 3.5 but with that newer DOpus thing.
he said 3.9 was not better than 3.5, or something similar
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2010, 09:53:33 PM »
Quote from: Franko;600857
@ Buzzfuzz

I couldn't agree more about 3.9 with you, too bloated and not much of an increase in speed when using that. Oddly enough though 3.5 is much better and that's what I want back to... :)

I'll post some SysSpeed benchmarks later on showing the increase in speed that can be achieved using the utils I mentioned earlier for folk to judge for themselves... :)

Will be interested to see the results Franko as I'm expecting one very soon.

I've been toying with the idea of putting the 060 machine in a tower because I figured AGA would hold the machine back but would prefer to keep it in a desktop if possible.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2010, 11:06:10 PM »
HighGFX is working like any other screenmode.
Speed can be improved like on any other mode.
FBlit will benefit from faster cpu.
But there is no difference between graphic.library from 3.1 and 3.9.
There is no update in OS3.9 for the graphics.library.
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a1k.org%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D20599
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2010, 12:02:07 AM »
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HighGFX is working like any other screenmode.
Speed can be improved like on any other mode.
FBlit will benefit from faster cpu.
But there is no difference between graphic.library from 3.1 and 3.9.
There is no update in OS3.9 for the graphics.library.
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.a1k.org%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D20599

Try this new graphics.library.

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With this release, you are now able to remove forever these patchs :
 AmyWarp
 BlazeWCP
 CpuBlit 1.0
 CpuBlit 2.0
 FBlit
 FText
 IconBeFast
 SetPatch v44.38

There are now bluit-in, for unity and simplification.

http://aminet.net/package/driver/video/gfxlib_428b9
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #27 on: December 23, 2010, 12:06:55 AM »
I have my reasons to keep it away from my stable setup.
It is also far away to be included in a final bb4.
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #28 on: December 23, 2010, 12:17:27 AM »
I want to see it given the Franko treatment. :)
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Re: 68060 Accelerators
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 23, 2010, 12:57:43 AM »
Quote from: Franko;600834
CMQ060

& a Blizkick patched rom will give an Amiga to be proud of, you be hard pushed to find a better set up than this... :)

I'll need to post some benchmarks to show the difference this makes... :)


What is a Blizkick patched rom? How do I go about doing/getting this?
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