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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #164 from previous page: December 18, 2010, 03:03:01 AM »
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the Amiga was better than the Apple Mac.


The Amiga is sure alot more fun to fiddle with than Mac, though I'm not sure that's a good thing from a standard end-user point of view.  I've yet to toss an Amiga into a dumpster, can't say the same for old Macs.
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #165 on: December 18, 2010, 04:35:07 AM »
Its NOT dead! Damn, I don't want any of you guys near me if I get sick. you'll be tossing dirt on my face while I'm still breathing.
Hell, its not even coughing up blood!
There's three NG OS' based on AmigaOS.
New hardware and software is being released.
The only thing that's dead is Commodore.
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #166 on: December 18, 2010, 05:24:31 AM »
Bring out your dead!!!


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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #167 on: December 18, 2010, 07:52:48 AM »
I would like to point out that none of the original 80's platforms (Amiga, Mac, Atari, Archimedies, Winows etc) survived.

Most died slow protracted deaths... Windows was replaced with Win95 and later WinNT... Mac was replaced with NextStep. It was only clever marketing that maintained the illusion of continuity with these platforms.

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #168 on: December 18, 2010, 10:55:14 AM »
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Its NOT dead! Damn, I don't want any of you guys near me if I get sick. you'll be tossing dirt on my face while I'm still breathing.
Hell, its not even coughing up blood!
There's three NG OS' based on AmigaOS.
New hardware and software is being released.
The only thing that's dead is Commodore.

I hate to burst your bubble, and I know we're talking potato, potato here, but any computer (or other system) without any hope whatsoever of a real commercial future is, in fact, dead.   Whether or not a machine is commercially viable is THE established means of determining whether or not a project is "alive" or "dead".  Any machine that sells to an extremely limited handful of hobbyists at extremely inflated prices for antiquated hardware (c'mon... The PPC is even dead-ended!) does not make it commercially viable.

Extremely similar examples;

  • The Sony Dreamcast.  Dead.
  • Original X-Box.  Dead.
  • Coleco Adam.  Dead.
  • Atari 400/800 platform.  Dead.
  • 3DO.  Dead.
  • The PPC.  Dead.
  • .. the list is endless.
Yes, the 25 year old device you play with daily may be functioning.   Yes.  You may be having fun with it.   Yes.  Hobbyists may be working to try and save the future with new hardware (note, even Hyperion are hobbyists), but the platform is, in fact, commercially and in 99% of all other respects, dead.

(It's also a "toy computer" if you want to go down that road.. :) )

There are a few which are still on life support, the C-64 for example and you may want to extend that same type status to the Amiga but the differences are that the 64 has current, LARGE, vibrant (non-bitchy) community and userbase willing to spend money on it, along with the fact that it has currently marketed devices like the "64 on a stick" that are accepted (and being purchased) by the public at large as opposed to just a handful of hobbyists with more money than sense.

Commercially speaking however, they're all dead.

That being said, before you get upset, you need to understand and accept that neither the death of the Commodore Amiga platform, or the fact that it is now relegated to "toy" -- aka hobby -- status make it any LESS fun to tinker with, but we shouldn't be delusional about the facts.

Narf!

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #169 on: December 18, 2010, 11:20:19 AM »
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I hate to burst your bubble, and I know we're talking potato, potato here


Funny story... I read this as "potato, potato" not "potato, potato" or "potato, potato" or even "potato, potato" :-D

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #170 on: December 18, 2010, 02:08:32 PM »
We're simply on vacation. Good to take a break occasionally and come back refreshed.
Otherwise wait till there is some new hardware. Otherwise it is only part time/casual for everyone, there is no-one doing it full time so things run slow.
By the time we catch up to the PC (drivers/CPU grunt etc.) the PC will just be a throw away word processor and people will have an assortment of devices they use to need the PC for. A future Amiga is already retro.
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #171 on: December 18, 2010, 02:18:09 PM »
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It's also a "toy computer" if you want to go down that road.. :)



Phew, thought I was the only one...
 

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #172 on: December 18, 2010, 02:25:59 PM »
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Funny story... I read this as "potato, potato" not "potato, potato" or "potato, potato" or even "potato, potato" :-D


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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #173 on: December 18, 2010, 02:40:02 PM »
@ Karlos

That site is almost like peering inside my mind, kinda comforting in a strange sort of way with balloons tied on & yellow flavoured shoe's dancing on a hot summers day on the dark side of the moon... if you know what I mean... :)
 

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #174 on: December 18, 2010, 03:02:29 PM »
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@ Karlos

That site is almost like peering inside my mind, kinda comforting in a strange sort of way with balloons tied on & yellow flavoured shoe's dancing on a hot summers day on the dark side of the moon... if you know what I mean... :)


Damn Franko.
I'm not sure anyone gets that (without improper medication).

And the C64 isn't dead, but the Amiga is? As Franko might say, BULLOCKS. The C64 definately qualifies as a toy computer. When I see people porting web browsers and audio/video editing tools to it, then I'll change my mind on that one. But the C64 is little more than an NES with a keyboard.

Amiga is NOT dead and if its not alive, then it must be undead. That's it!
Amiga the undead computer has risen!
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #175 on: December 18, 2010, 03:06:04 PM »
The delusional here truly scare me.  Unless -- I'm hoping -- it's just some sort of dusty brit humor...
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #176 on: December 18, 2010, 03:18:34 PM »
The problem with this community is that the Amiga has never been allowed to die.  The patient is in the hospital on her death bed.  The problem is there are multiple doctors all with  different agendas trying different things to "save" the patient.  They all help her eek out another years existence but they never really cure her.  Nor can they cure her.

We are the family members all hoping for a cure.  Problem is we all listen to different doctors and start bickering.

Let her die already.

We would all be better off if everything Amiga related burned in a fire the day Commodore closed.  At this point we would be a happy retro community talking about our latest hack instead of a bunch of bitter old coots engaging in endless slap fights.
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #177 on: December 18, 2010, 03:35:37 PM »
@ Iggy

Me meds are are legit prescribed stuff, the various combinations they've been trying me on for nearly thirteen years now have had no effect on me or my alien implant , I still think & see things the same way I did before I started on them... :)

@ Wayne

How can the father of Amiga.org say that the Amiga is dead or even just a toy, that's like telling all the little kiddies that Santa or the easter bunny doesn't exist, they do and they live in my basement, so therefore the Amiga is alive and well and far from being a toy it's still the most advanced computer in my house... :)

@ -BobW-

Why let the greatest computer ever created die, it's a bit like the royal family, they go one forever and get the best care and attention just like the miggie does, all good things come to those who wait and the magic 30 year waiting period is only 5 more years away and that's when us true believers will finally be rewarded for keeping the faith... :`)


A message to all who say the Amiga is dead... :madashell:

Are you lot in the habit of playing around with dead things, there's a name for that you know... cos thats really weird and scary... :eek:
 

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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #178 on: December 18, 2010, 03:39:31 PM »
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@ Iggy

Me meds are are legit prescribed stuff, the various combinations they've been trying me on for nearly thirteen years now have had no effect on me or my alien implant , I still think & see things the same way I did before I started on them... :)

@ Wayne

How can the father of Amiga.org say that the Amiga is dead or even just a toy, that's like telling all the little kiddies that Santa or the easter bunny doesn't exist, they do and they live in my basement, so therefore the Amiga is alive and well and far from being a toy it's still the most advanced computer in my house... :)

@ -BobW-

Why let the greatest computer ever created die, it's a bit like the royal family, they go one forever and get the best care and attention just like the miggie does, all good things come to those who wait and the magic 30 year waiting period is only 5 more years away and that's when us true believers will finally be rewarded for keeping the faith... :`)


A message to all who say the Amiga is dead... :madashell:

Are you lot in the habit of playing around with dead things, there's a name for that you know... cos thats really weird and scary... :eek:


Santa and the Easter Bunny aren't real? No....

Children shouldn't play with dead things.
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Re: Whatever Happened To The Real Amiga Community.
« Reply #179 on: December 18, 2010, 04:06:34 PM »
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BULLOCKS.



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