A cautionary warning note for anti Amiga, AROS & MorphOS trolls

[Karlos]

You lot seem determined to make me lock this thread :-/

[Piru]

Did you not read my reply??

Yes.

I provided an example on what i think is going over the line, so that you could see what i meant by trolling.

Yes, that is what you said but I really don't see it. Thus, I'd like you to explain it in more detail so that even I can understand.

I would not have had a problem if a person said that the keyboard was maybe a bit too price for him/her or that he/she did not like design.

Yes, I can see that in the said thread.
 

I do however have a problem when people accuse people like trevor for using this keyboard as a way to ripoff OS4.x "fanboys"

Who said that? Where? I really can't find such post. Maybe I'm reading a wrong thread?

This is important. We wouldn't want to have opinions and heated discussion being labeled trolling for wrong reasons, now would we?

[Tomas]

@piru
Like i said, i dont know who said that. I dont know exactly what the thread was named and i dont think it would be a good idea for me to provide names even if i could dig it up.
It was in a thread about the show in beligum i think when the keyboard and systems was first shown.
I cant promise you will find the word evil there though It was more the tone and context that got me to include that word. And like i said, it wasnt just one guy.

But cant we just put this to rest now?? I regret already mentioning that thread even though i am still standing by my opinion that it was pure trolling.

Also dont get me wrong... I am not blaming any side or "camp" here as there are plenty of such trolls on the red side as well.

[Argo]

You lot seem determined to make me lock this thread :-/

How ironic!

[ferrellsl]

How ironic!

He's just bluffing!  A censor would never censor himself!  That would be an admission of some sort!  LOL

[Karlos]

Well, seeing as my attempts to lighten the mood have failed so badly, I might as well. The moment moderation policy is mentioned, it seems as if the sky is falling.

I may be misreading the situation, but I can't really see anything in the original post that isn't already covered in the site rules. I've always maintained that trolls - as distinct from people that are just highly opinionated - are a waste of space anyway, but thankfully we don't have much in the way of working examples.

[nicholas]

Please do not let this place turn into AW.net or (God forbid) the loony bin that is amigans.net!

Pretty please with pink ribbons and knobs on!

[nicholas]

people that are just highly opinionated

Pretty much all of us then!

[Tension]

Well, seeing as my attempts to lighten the mood have failed so badly, I might as well. The moment moderation policy is mentioned, it seems as if the sky is falling.

I may be misreading the situation, but I can't really see anything in the original post that isn't already covered in the site rules. I've always maintained that trolls - as distinct from people that are just highly opinionated - are a waste of space anyway, but thankfully we don't have much in the way of working examples.

The danger is that people's interpretations of trolling are vastly different.

Providing an opinion should not be looked at as trolling, even if the person's opinion is wrong.

Disagreeing does not a troll make.

[Karlos]

The danger is that people's interpretations of trolling are vastly different.

Providing an opinion should not be looked at as trolling, even if the person's opinion is wrong.

Disagreeing does not a troll make.

Nobody is suggesting otherwise. It's how you present your opinion that matters.

A synthetic example:

Stating an opinion: "Well, for me XYZ is not a solution compared to the alternatives, I'd not be able to justify the , but if other people want to go for it, that's up to them."

Obvious trolling: "XYZ is a pile of shit loved by retarded fanbois that I'd never touch in a million years and totally deserves to fail!"

The space inbetween is all shades of grey.

[cha05e90]

Please do not let this place turn into AW.net or (God forbid) the loony bin that is amigans.net!

Is being offensive against other Amiga-related sites trolling or not?

[kolla]

I have seen the changes with my own eyes, i have seen people who have expressed those very same views as me and seen how the OS4 users have slowly shifted more towards sites like amigaworld.

For my own account, I did not change much - but the entire "OS4 sphere", if one can call it that, changed alot, and in general, not for the better.

Luckily for all "fail and balanced" forum users, there's a new movie coming along now, "Troll hunters", I suggest you go  see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy2nAOdBUlw

:laughing:

[nicholas]

Is being offensive against other Amiga-related sites trolling or not?

Well, as I've not been moderated for that comment and at least one moderator is online and active within this thread I think you can probably deduce the answer to that question yourself.

[utri007]

There are lots of people who are NOT interested OS4 or hardware projects involved to it, but they jump every thread where those are discussed and start to negative whining.

I just don't get it why to read OS4 threads if you are not interested?

[nicholas]

There are lots of people who are NOT interested OS4 or hardware projects involved to it, but they jump every thread where those are discussed and start to negative whining.

I just don't get it why to read OS4 threads if you are not interested?

This is an OS4 thread?

[Iggy]

Guys, I have been censored on the Natami site for repeating things Gunnar posted and accusing him of unfair bias.
I was just censored two days ago for defending A-eon and Acubes pricing (I used to manage a company that sold low volume systems we built ourselves and it was damned expensive). Then again, I probably shouldn't have suggested that the Austrailian I was responding to was talking out his ass when he apparently had no understanding of ecomonies of scale. But think about it, I got a one day suspension of posting and a warning notice for defending the manufacturers of AOS4 hardware (and I'm a MofrphOS user)!

The point I'm trying to make is HERE if my comment was a little off color BUT I had a POINT, the worst that might happen is a warning from a moderator.

I love a little humor or attitude thrown into the mix and I've come to respect the opinions of many of you that I've had past disagreements with. I don't care what system you use (as long as it isn't Windows or OSX), I'm just glad you're supporting some segment of our market. Because that's now the point! It's OUR market. We have three deirivitive OS' and still see development on legacy systems and software. And think about it Bill McEwen can't selling AOS (and we all know CUSA's plans on using the Amiga name have little influence on our futures).

I think we all agree to disagree here, but as fractious as we can be (and occassionally down right silly) I don't see much real trolling here.
So, instead of saying something over the top (like I love you guys), let me just congradulate you on participating in tne of the few Amiga related forums that isn't totally f**ked up.