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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 02, 2010, 03:30:58 AM »
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...As far as OS4, its too expensive for such a crappy slow computer, but thats just my opinion, I wish them, and all their users the best.
 
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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2010, 03:48:22 AM »
See that? Speaking of infighting, I don't really care how snappy os4 is on your 800mhz sam system is... 500$ just for a motherboard? Complete system at amigakit is 900$ Thats crazy.
 
I'm pretty sure aros on my 100$ 3.0ghz machine smokes that system, especially for things like 3d rendering. I support your right to use that if it makes you happy though. Sometimes there is no better or worse, its just a matter of personal tastes.
 
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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2010, 03:58:04 AM »
Just to add my own flaming:


I have been lucky and had the oportunity to test all the Amigoid OSes

-MorphOS is slick and fast, but I dont feel at home with it. Blame me, the old schooler.
-AROS is a great concept which has evolved greatly during the last years. It has become a tempting alternative.
-AmigaOS 68k is an oldie goldie. The true thing. I love it, despite its drawbacks. I enjoy tinkering with it. I will never leave it.
-OS4 was a huge dissapointment for me. I expected an improved 3.9 experience, and I got an incompatible, unstable and downgraded one. And I am not talking about its hardware! It could have been so great, I was expecting it with open arms, but well... they run short... so short.

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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2010, 04:34:13 AM »
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See that? Speaking of infighting

nah mate, no fighting at all, I was just responding to your previous comment:

"As far as OS4, its too expensive for such a crappy slow computer, but  thats just my opinion, I wish them, and all their users the best."

see that? ;)
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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2010, 04:39:19 AM »
Maybe thats part of the problem I also had with os4. I also expected an updated more modern 3.9 too. What I experienced when I tried a friends sam system was 68k apps that didn't work. Slow, not as slick as 3.9.
I much preferred running 3.9 on an emulator to the experience of os4.
Amiga forever costs 50$ and I prefer that to os4, because almost every
classic app just works.
 
I haven't had a chance to try morphos yet, but everything I have seen and heard about it from users looks awesome. I've been drooling over screenshots and youtube videos. I'm planning on buying an imac and registering morphos. Just what I needed, one more computer in the man cave...
 
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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2010, 05:58:40 AM »
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I've never really looked properly at AROS, and to be honest I don't see what use it could be to me, I much prefer coding in the Amigas native 68k... :)

Would be interested though if someone would care to mention just why AROS may be of a benefit to me. :)


Hi,

@Franko,

I have tried AROS on several of my machines, could get them running for everything except browsing on the internet, seems that the internet part needs a special nic card.

So

I see no use for AROS as of yet, it is cool to try to run another OS, but an OS without software is like a car without tires, it runs but it just doesn't go anywhere.

MorphOS-- who the heck wants to own a special MAC, my gosh the people comming up with this stuff is worse than Commodore, but they shouldn't have to follow Commodore's style. Why not work on something that will work on today's modern day computer's, especially when I have to pay for it.

OS-4 -- when will Amigians finally relize that PPC's are dead, finished, gone forever, they are about as old as the Amiga. Then they bring out a 800 mhz SAM and expect me to buy it just to run OS-4. Once again a car without wheels, it runs, but sure isn't going to go anywhere and besides who wants an old VW engine in their car. Come on, lets try getting something that uses the new modern speedy engines of todays computer, instead of a single core, how about a 4 or 6 core engine.


Now listen up fellow Amigians, we need a system that is new, will run all kinds of software, and will be interesting to developers all the way around but mostly run with newer specs and be ready for upgradable software.

In other words put the darn wheels back on the car so that we can go somewhere.

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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2010, 06:09:25 AM »
Hi,

@haywirepc,

I'm planning on buying an imac and registering morphos. Just what I needed, one more computer in the man cave...

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Know how you feel, I have several old computers laying around but why should I buy an old outdated computer to run some software that I have to pay bucks for that has no software company developers developing for it. Excuse me, I usually don't go out and buy an old outdated computer, then spend $150 to run just an operating system. I don't drool over anything like that, I LOL, at people who support this insanity. If you are going to charge me for an OS, then at least make it able to run on todays modern day computer systems which might have a chance of attracting software companies to try writing software for it.

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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2010, 06:15:22 AM »
Hi,

@ Haywirepc,

Hey are you a Phillies fan, they look pretty good this year, but the Eagles still look like they are a bunch of losers, maybe Vick will pull them out.

I go for the gold, I am a Pittsbugh Steeler fan, and live a little North of you up in Wilkes Barre, where you have to walk the streets with a 357 Ruger in order to go to the store, and where the Mayor of Wilkes Barre charges you 3% tax for this excitement.

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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2010, 03:29:10 PM »
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Huh?
Would you like to me to list you several configurations that AROS won't run?


I bet AmigaOS4 or MorphOS won't run on these machine either ...
Given that AROS runs hosted under linux I claim it can run on much more machines than any of the other OSes from the Amiga family.

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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2010, 03:30:56 PM »
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So it's no use for me on an 060/PPC A1200 then... :(


The m68k AROS version of should run on your machine and would be comparable to an OS upgrade on the machine.

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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2010, 05:01:16 PM »
Back in the day, there was more competition between MorpOS and AmigaOS4.  I think that some of us got caught up in the frenzy of mud-slinging and name-calling and trolling.

In my own case, I wanted to upgrade from a very old Classic Amiga running AmigaOS 3.1 to the "next generation".  At that time, there were two choices (MorphOS and AmigaOS4) and they ran on different hardware .  I could not afford to purchase both systems.  I chose one and was immediately branded as being a member of that camp.

It all seems so silly to me now.

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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2010, 05:04:07 PM »
Getting back to the original topic ...

Whats the point of the infighting?

Maybe all we have to do is use some common courtesy in the forums.

We are all individuals, with different tastes and different needs and different priorities and different spending habits.  

We have many choices available to us:
a wide variety of Classic Amiga machines
a wide variety of emulation products
MorphOS
AROS
AmigaOS 4

IMHO, if your choice gives you that "Amiga" feeling, then you have made a good choice.

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Re: Whats the point of the infighting?
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2010, 05:17:07 PM »
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Aros is for people who want the power of the PC, but don't want to run Windows, Linux or OSX to harness it.


Until AROS gets working 64-bit SMP and OpenCL (on the reasonable assumption that CUDA is a complete impossibility), I'll still have to stick with Linux to harness the power in mine.

Mind you, the only times I ran AROS on it recently were via linux anyway, so actually, that's not really much of a problem.
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