Whats the point of the infighting?

[runequester]

The infighting about "amiga" stuff is pretty legendary, and its something that is pretty much 25% of the traffic on this site.

My question is.. what is the point of it?


So we have 3 options for "next gen" amiga OS

Amiga OS 4
Morph OS
AROS.

Let's examine these individually.

Morph comes with an install requirement of "buy an old mac someone doesn't want on Craigslist", and has a hefty registration fee to actually use the damn thing for more than an hour.

OS 4 does less and only works on hardware thats on the wrong side of 800 dollars.

AROS is free but barely runs on anything.


I see people spending more time tearing down platform xx or yy than they do actually talking up their own product, all to convince people that their version is marginally better than the others, and that their chosen one is totally a mainstream OS.


I'd be surprised if either has an install base much over a thousand people.


What is it worth, other than internet nerd rage points ?
Why not cooperate and actually try to put something out there that might be remotely of interest to anybody other than the existing user base ?



Is the earth truly round ?

[dammy]

AROS is free but barely runs on anything.

Huh?

[jorkany]

Could you please link to the infighting between the AROS and MorphOS communities?

Thanks!

[runequester]

Its probably more OS4 vs Morph. The AROS guys seem to hang out somewhere else. or just try to do their thing.

[dammy]

Could you please link to the infighting between the AROS and MorphOS communities?

Thanks!

Probably goes back when the AROS Devs found out the loop hole in the APL/MPL that allow any seperate files from APL code to be exempted from the APL.  Like what is being done with FireFox/Timberwolf code, only the actual MPL files are being released to the public.  This explains why some of the devs from those days went to LGPL/GPL for any new AROS code.  I can't blame in the least either.

[Franko]

When it comes to the Amiga I personally couldn't care less about Amiga OS 4, Morph OS or AROS. My souped up A1200 does everything I require and all the software I use is native 68K, with the odd exception of one or two bits of PPC software.

The only time that these other OS systems and language's may affect me is if I purchase an X1000.

To me, while others may be happy to use such things and use other non Amiga machines, then best of luck to them, and in a way they are still helping to keep the Amiga alive. I have and hopefully only ever will, use genuine classic Amiga hardware & software for 99% of my computing needs, as in my book that is the only time you can call yourself a true Amiga User.

PS:The earth is not round...

[CSixx]

The infighting about "amiga" stuff is pretty legendary, and its something that is pretty much 25% of the traffic on this site.

And this post is in that 25%.
How ironic you start a post questioning the point of the fighting, then proceed to take jabs at MorphOS, OS4, and AROS...

[runequester]

And this post is in that 25%.
How ironic you start a post questioning the point of the fighting, then proceed to take jabs at MorphOS, OS4, and AROS...

I am aware of the irony. The point is there's nothing to be gained from the red and blue trolls slugging it out as nobody is where they ought to be yet.

[illy5603]

When it comes to the Amiga I personally couldn't care less about Amiga OS 4, Morph OS or AROS.

Exactly! I look at my Amigas the same way Jay Leno might look at a classic car. It's beautiful, simple, brings back happy memories and it is fun to take for a spin every now and then but I don't use them for every day activities.

[Colani1200]

My question is.. what is the point of it?

I guess because the Atari guys are no enemies any more people have to find another victim.

On a more seroius note: There is none. So try to stay away from this (like I do) and enjoy the amigaverse instead.

Is the earth truly round ?

Not really. Actually it is pretty much shaped like an egg. ;-)

[runequester]

I guess because the Atari guys are no enemies any more people have to find another victim.

I imagine there must be some retro atari communities out there still these days
Maybe we can fight those guys

[Colani1200]

I imagine there must be some retro atari communities out there still these days
Maybe we can fight those guys

Would be much better than what's happenig atm really...

[kolla]

More like a slightly flat ball (due to rotation) - howerver I don't know what kind of egg you're referring to.

[persia]

The point?

[Fats]

Probably goes back when the AROS Devs found out the loop hole in the APL/MPL that allow any seperate files from APL code to be exempted from the APL.  Like what is being done with FireFox/Timberwolf code, only the actual MPL files are being released to the public.  This explains why some of the devs from those days went to LGPL/GPL for any new AROS code.  I can't blame in the least either.

That was not even my biggest gripe; it was that we needed to beg everytime we wanted the most recent version of the files that actually fall under MPL And a special arrangement had to be made with Georg Steger so he could filter the MPL code from their source repository and put it in the AROS one. According to the MPL it is the programmers task to release the source code.

To talk about infighting; I never liked the way BBRV seems to work and do business. He/they seemed never to be able to develop and market a product without stirring the pot and creating a lot of infighting.

greets,
Staf.