Will you be buying an AmigaOne X1000 ?

[ajlwalker]

I must say that the continued comparisons between Amiga and PC/Mac hardware based upon GHz and such like are not at all helpfull. I'm not going to try and convince anyone that a 700MHz PPC can out perform a 6 core super beast PC when raytracing and such but the clue is in the wording, PERFORM! It's not numbers of cycles that matter, it's how fast and well a computer gets the job done. If the job in question is picking up a few emails and the process is that of turning on the machine, collecting mail and turning it off again then one could argue that a SAM out performs many modern PCs as the job may well be complete on the SAM by the time the PC boots. Even on x86 based machines some tasks are no quicker now then fifteen years ago with a 486. It all depends on what you use the machine for, if 99% of that time is typing then the big speed up comes from improving the speed you type at does it not. This is also abou what resources that are available, windows eats cycles for breakfast leaving less available power then the numbers may suggest. Take all this into account and we see that hardware comparisons are not, by a long shot, the whole story.
Please note I'm not having a dig at anyone here but it's a fair point that needed a mention.

I agree with what you say tripitaka.

However, Piru will come along and ask why you shut your machine down every time anyway.  You can just use sleep/hibernate mode and it awakens in seconds.

Me, I'm old fashioned and do shut my windows boxes down every time, so what you describe is attractive to me, but it may not be attractive to others.

[ajlwalker]

@lsmart

I guess it falls down to taste then, but I think your input is indeed valid.

Personally I have no experience of preferences in OS4, but if it's anything like 3.1 then I will be happy.

Windows preferences are ok once you get used to them, but I hate the inconsistencies between the likes of XP and Vista.  I also hate all the eye candy crap which just makes it harder to use for me.

[lsmart]

I bought this for what an X1000 will cost!

Maybe I should paint it like a boing ball.

Don´t ruin it! It is a great car. However that is precisely the point: You could have bought a more modern car where spare parts are easy to get, but you chose one that hit a soft spot.

The same kind of motivation will drive X1000 customers. There won´t be many.  
MorphOS on Apple Computers may look cool to some. And I won´t talk them out of it. But I owned some Apple PPCs and I can say that I only miss one of them and thats is the original candy colored iMac - for cuteness only. And yes - that keyboard was crap.

[lsmart]

Windows preferences are ok once you get used to them.

Maybe it is partly my own fault that I have such a hard time. I was getting used to the classic windows list of controls and I haven´t jet figured out how to set Windows 7 to present the same categories. Right now I am always guessing whether to find the mouse speed under Printers & Stuff or Languages & Stuff ... there must be a setting to reverse that strange grouping.

Edit: Oh, It is actually easy .. just found the setting... thanks!
It always helps to talk to somebody.

[Methuselas]

I bought this for what an X1000 will cost!



Maybe I should paint it like a boing ball.

Wow! Tone, she's beautiful. Is that a '64??? O_O

[redrumloa]

Wow! Tone, she's beautiful. Is that a '64??? O_O

It's a curved window sedan, which makes it a 73 or 74 Super Beetle.

[Piru]

Come on. This is not fair and not true. OWB is getting updated every 2 month or so.

Didn't you get the memo? Joerg quit on OWB.

And Timberwolf will arrive before X1000 hits the shelves

Considering both Friedens are busy with OS4 itself I find that very hard to believe. Unless of course if X1000 release is postponed for a couple of years?

Workbench is a great file manager and neither mac nor PC offer anything better. You might be ignoring that most people on Windows use a norton commander clone?

That's just ridiculous. Workbench is stuck to WB2 era basically. Things have moved on elsewhere.

And Preferences are OK if you ignore the skinning and MUI-crap.

I disagree.

[Iggy]

Wow! Tone, she's beautiful. Is that a '64??? O_O

Yup, rounded windshield is a definite give away. Super Beetles are still pretty though.

                   Workbench is a great file manager and neither mac nor PC offer anything better. You might be ignoring that most people on Windows use a norton commander clone?

That just silly. Ambient and even Scalos are better than Workbench and I'm glad nothing under Windows even vaguely resembles Norton's software (the only Norton package I ever found useful was Ghost).

[tone007]

However that is precisely the point: You could have bought a more modern car where spare parts are easy to get, but you chose one that hit a soft spot.

Actually, I picked the Beetle because it has a huge aftermarket and parts are quite easy (and inexpensive) to get.  I liked my '64 Volvo way better, but parts were nonexistent.  I love going off topic.

edit: and redrumloa is correct, of course, it's a 1973.

[A1260]

if its going to cost north of 1500 then i am not going to buy an x1000 anytime soon...

[kickstart]

Of course NO.

Underpowered for a overprice hardware and one of the last attemps to get money from users with new hopes, using the 25th anniversary of a computing idea that has nothing to do with the "new" x1000, if anyone want to "celebrate" some anniversary an amiga dont need hundreds os cores o gigahertzs, the special thing on amiga is the chipset.

[kolla]

Workbench is stuck to WB2 era basically. Things have moved on elsewhere

Where elsewhere exactly?

[kolla]

Yup, rounded windshield is a definite give away. Super Beetles are still pretty though..

So, 6V system?
I remember messing around with a '67 that was all "prepared" for the new 12V, but with all parts still being 6V - it had a rather unique dynamo that looked like a 12V one but actually was a 6V one.

Btw - The pinnacle of desktop experiences for me has always been DOpus Magellan 5.82 - whatever happened to the OS4 port that was "promised", like 5 years ago or so?

[tone007]

12v.

[motrucker]

Like so many others, unless the price drops to something truly competitive, I doubt I'll be buying one. I'll stick with my old "Classic" Amiga machines - The TI99/4A I landed, and the new Windows machines.

[kolla]

Every breed of it, morph, os4 and aros are playing catch up perpetually and they will never be able to match the amount of money, weight or mass thrown behind windows, linux and os x.

or NetBSD, Haiku, RiscOS, MiNT, Plan9, OpenVMS, Inferno, VxWorks, Minix, Reactos, eCS, Symbian... the list is endless.