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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 11:41:44 PM »
I don't think this would run amiga emulation very well at all. I'm not sure if its relevant, but I tried many 1.0-1.5 ghz intel pc's and all had stuttered sound and video playback slowness. Seems like 2ghz+ always works, but anything less has problems if your running octamed with many channels or whatever...

If you want to emulate a basic amiga 500 maybe... but not anything high end amiga...
 
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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2010, 11:54:13 PM »
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what can i do with this? 800mhz, 15 inch screen, 60 gig version..t


I've got one with the same specs, it's cute, but definitely not a powerhouse.  Can't even play youtube smoothly for the most part.
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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2010, 12:57:53 AM »
what about old mac games? run stuff from say 1989 ish to like 1999? if there is any that is good and worth a chance to play? and of course for a 10 year old girl. I am sure there is something decent.

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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2010, 03:37:44 AM »
Yeah, the one in the garage is my son's, he couldn't do anything with it anymore so we replaced it with a throwaway dual 1 GHz G4, which handles modern things ok.
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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2010, 05:26:46 AM »
So those Apple things are no good, huh?

Then strip those things in pieces, sell the memory (if socketed) and use the HD in one Amiga 600/1200.

Recycling is the word. :)
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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2010, 06:56:08 AM »
Depends on what you want to do with it:look at the apps  it would run when new,it will run those apps still!

INstead of giving the  stripped carcass to be crushed by some silly green recycler,sell the pieces on ebay.

If the screen is positioned correctly,you don't even see the base;it seems as the picture is floating in mid-air.
 

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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2010, 06:58:24 AM »
DOn't forget there are still linux PPC distros that should run on this  imac.
 

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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2010, 12:26:15 PM »
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I've got one with the same specs, it's cute, but definitely not a powerhouse.  Can't even play youtube smoothly for the most part.


Yeah I got a spare iBook G4 I hardly ever use anymore roughly same specs I guess, YouTube is painfully slow on it as is flash, but I guess thats no surprise to anyone as Adobe are pants at everything they do; exc. PDF lol.  Also I avoid HD video all the time as the computer just hangs.

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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2010, 02:28:08 PM »
I wonder what UAE would run at on this machine?  I mean even at 1/15th the speed you are still talking 50 MHz, which is quite decent for a retro Amiga.  Maybe Jaguar and UAE or Yellow Dog Linux and UAE?  But you have to paint the base to make a half a bong ball....

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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2010, 02:34:28 PM »
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I wonder what UAE would run at on this machine?

Rather badly, because PPC UAE has no Just-In-Time compilation. You need to use the frameskip option for sure.
 

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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2010, 04:07:11 PM »
I find it somehow odd that people who are so crazily nostalgic for a 25 year old computer that ran at  7 to 25 MHz are deriding as useless a computer one-third that age and at least thirty times faster with vastly improved memory,sound,and video display.

I wish Cloanto produced an Amiga Forever Mac release that installed and ran with all the ease and features of the Windows version.I'd buy at least one copy if the price were the same,or even $10 more than the Windows version.

Computers and their marketing drive me nuts:the laptop that cost several thousand dollars is now supposedly absolutely  worthless yet there sits a nice screen that ought to be able to display my pictures in a slideshow but I am supposed to buy a dedicated device instead. Anybody interested in /have programs for HP620LX palmtop?
 

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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2010, 04:27:02 AM »
@recidivist: Cloanto did nothing but re-passing money from ROM licenses to Amiga.inc and selling CD-ROM disks with the FREEWARE WinUAE!

 Illegal? No.

 Immoral? Heck, yes.
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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2010, 06:32:44 AM »
IS  not the  license to use ROM code needed  to be LEGAL and MORAL ?

And how does one buy ROM license for Win UAE if one does not have an Amiga?
 

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Re: iMac G4
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2010, 06:36:04 AM »
Ugly?  That model makes a great indirect light for your night stand, just load up an all white background and tilt the screen to the ceiling.  :lol:

I actually like the case and screen design, very unique and compact.  Sort of like a MacMini with a very adjustable LCD screen planted on top of it.  Maybe you can gut the case and fit a 1.5GHz G4 MacMini into it and then you could run MorphOS2.5 on it, if you can configure a video cable to the LCD monitor from the Mini's DVI port.

That would be a cool project and the best use of your iMac IMHO.
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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2010, 07:29:29 AM »
@recidivist

Someone other than Toni would be working on the UAE bits, and WinUAE is the core of Amiga Forever. I'm pretty sure Toni has absolutely no interest in PowerPC platforms.

Cloanto's RetroPlatform could find a home anywhere, though, with a bit of effort. (But, RP9 looks like it might infringe upon the i4i patent that Microsoft ran afoul of. Software patents suck.)
 

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Re: i mac g4
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 12, 2010, 08:55:39 AM »
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And how does one buy ROM license for Win UAE if one does not have an Amiga?

You shouldn't have to buy a ROM licence for something released 25 years ago !
Every other parts of the system are available free of charge, and even open source for the most part, that includes:

 - free and open source hardware (minimig)
 - free games (lots of commercial games have been freely released by their owner, including most Team17 games for example)
 - free and open source software based-emulator
 - ...

If the 1.3 ROM (and yes, I mean the ROM, not even the disk based workbench apps, and I mean 1.3 only, newer versions could be left closed) was at least released for free (I'm not talking about open sourcing it), you could just get a full free legal package anywhere on the internet, one click, and here you go.

Apple released old software, you don't have to buy your CPC ROM,... it should be the same for the Amiga...

I believe this would increase emulation and Amiga's usage: there is nothing to loose.
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