The X1000 will be > $2,225

[TheGoose]

"The only jokes around are the people that still do not understand this machine is not aimed at Amigans at large but a small population of developers and PowerUsers (read: enthusiast with enough money or "will"). It only serves as a vehicle for the first, to evolve the platform, and it's just a first step."

No, this has all happened before and is happening again. Phase5 and all its expensive, mostly out of reach, hardware etc.. Oh crap I'm sounding like Cylon. Even the CPU is essentially the same, ahhhh run, run away. :destroy:

[roomeo]

@roomeo
OS4 might get a seamless/trasparent OCS/AGA emulation layer invisible to the end users, it already has external utilities for that, it only needs to be integrated inside the OS. We'll see what happens.

Not to start an argument, but then os4 on x1000 is as much an Amiga as my WindowsXP running winUae..

Its still not a real Amiga.

[koaftder]

I prefer to use the label, "HyperionOS" personally.

[DAX]

Not to start an argument, but then os4 on x1000 is as much an Amiga as my WindowsXP running winUae..

Its still not a real Amiga.

That must have to do with your idea of "Amiga" as being a 1980 2D raster graphics game console (then turned computer), however the next installment of a given computer system it's not more or less  authentic, "depending on how close it's HW design is to the very first  machine produced in that line many years ago", and in fact the latest  MacPro and the latest Playstation share nothing with the originals (even  the Xbox360 shares nothing with its predecessor).

That line of  thinking it's a distorted pile of BS that I only hear in Amiga sites.  What happens in reality (ie: in the real world) is that a team of  engineers sits around a table (either real or virtual) and decides what  will be best for the platform based on available technology (available  through their HW partners even if currently under wraps).
The new  system comes out (such as PS3, MacPro or Xbox360) and might offer some  level of retro-compatibility via emulation layers.
The X1000 is just  the product of real world thinking and is a modern design that takes  heterogeneous computing at heart by allowing the addition of extra  Integer crunching power through Xmos Tech and extra Flops crunching  power via GP-GPU.

We should be all proud that the next Amiga will  once again be a very unique (and out of the box) Home Computer system, specially considering that as we discussed with user The_Leander thoroughly, C= had decided Amiga was a dead parrot and scrapped it completely (ie: if they dind't go bankrupt there would have been no Amiga whatsoever in any way or form).
They were planning to release a game console based on the Hombre chipset but this HW was no Amiga as Dave Haynie confessed:

Strictly speaking, Hombre is not an Amiga chip set.  While it supports some of the Amiga ideas, it's no more Amiga compatible than an SVGA chip (less actually, since all SVGA chips support planar as well as chunky displays,at least up to 4 bits/pixel).
The Amiga OS was not to have run on this system in any form.

They also had a WindowsNT PA-Risc based workstation planned (note that none of the above projects even came close to completion).

[Golem!dk]

@DAX

You keep doing this... just making up facts to support your farfetched dreams, but do go on... I suppose it is mildly amusing.

[DAX]

@DAX

You keep doing this... just making up facts to support your farfetched dreams, but do go on... I suppose it is mildly amusing.

You're free to counter them

[Golem!dk]

You're free to counter them

What's the point? you will bend any reply you get to support your delusions

[DAX]

What's the point? you will bend any reply you get to support your delusions

have try, might find out your deluded as much

[xeron]

I prefer to use the label, "HyperionOS" personally.

You can call it whatever you want, but Hyperion have the legal right to call it AmigaOS, and it is a continuation of AmigaOS. Call it "SausageCustard3000MooBlahBonkWizz" if you like, doesn't stop it being AmigaOS.

[Golem!dk]

@DAX
I would suggest you go recheck what you quote as facts, 99% of it seems to be mere speculation or you simply misunderstanding what was said. Not saying it couldn't happen given sufficient time and resources, but your estimates seem way too optimistic unless some drastic change happens. And no, the change in legal status really isn't really as significant as you make it out to be.

[koaftder]

You can call it whatever you want, but Hyperion have the legal right to call it AmigaOS, and it is a continuation of AmigaOS. Call it "SausageCustard3000MooBlahBonkWizz" if you like, doesn't stop it being AmigaOS.

In name only my friend. There is nothing more "amiga" in HyperionOS than what's in MorphOS or AROS. The legal argument doesn't impress me and it has nothing to do with the product or it's design. If Amiga Inc licensed the name to a dildo manufacturer, would you have the same feelings about a dildo with a boing ball logo attached to it?

[DAX]

@DAX
I would suggest you go recheck what you quote as facts, 99% of it seems to be mere speculation or you simply misunderstanding what was said. Not saying it couldn't happen given sufficient time and resources, but your estimates seem way too optimistic unless some drastic change happens.

On my optimism: If you analyze recent months instead of very old past happenings, you will notice that things have changed and the level of effort and commitment today is up 10 folds. So my stance is "we have this and this possibility" thanks to this new situation.
If this level of commitment is suddenly stopped I will surely change my mind, but I don't see any "recent" signal of that happening.

[Piru]

It's quite easy to tell that DAX hasn't been around for long.

[DAX]

It's quite easy to tell that DAX hasn't been around for long.

That's not completely correct, i've been around from 1988 till 1997 and now I'm back to stay, so we will live together future happenings  (and I will have to bear you guys dragging the past 10 years to the present all the time :lol:)

[Golem!dk]

That's not completely correct, i've been around from 1988 till 1997 and now I'm back to stay, so we will live together future happenings  (and I will have to bear you guys dragging the past 10 years to the present all the time :lol:)

So you choose to ignore what the people currently involved achieved in those years?

[DAX]

In name only my friend. There is nothing more "amiga" in HyperionOS than what's in MorphOS or AROS. The legal argument doesn't impress me and it has nothing to do with the product or it's design. If Amiga Inc licensed the name to a dildo manufacturer, would you have the same feelings about a dildo with a boing ball logo attached to it?

Even if you own a Mercedes 500SL and in a court case you settle to hand it over to your divorcing wife (let's say she is called Brenda),  the change in ownership doesn't turn the  car into a "Brenda 500SL" It will remain what it is, a Mecedes  500SL.  
AmigaOS is not called AmigaOS because it belonged to Amiga-Inc.  (Delaware or what not).
  Is like saying that since Commodore bought Miner and Morse company  than the OS became "CommodoreOS" as soon as a new version was made by  Commodore (ie:2.0/2.1/3.0) by other people not related to the original  Amiga group from the early 80s. (utter Nonesense).
 
 There is a Chronology, a Sourcecode, and the fact that the only evolution that original sourcecode (that dates back  many years) , is called AmigaOS4 and only Hyperion can developt it and sell it.

 AmigaOS is now in the  hands of Hyperion as it was in the hands of Amiga Inc before and as it  was in the hands of Commodore even earlier (all three were not the  original creators of the OS but they were entitled to further develop it and sell it in their due time).