The X1000 will be > $2,225

[ferrellsl]

@mikeymike

The article you reference speaks of an OpenOffice port for the X1000.  Is this something "official" or just another rumor.  I can't find anything that states that Hyperion is working on an OpenOffice port.  Just a vague statement from Trevor Dickinson on the Obligement web site that it's being ported as a "Lite" version or a version for "kids".  $2225 for a system with a crippled version of Open Office and an an alpha version of Firefox is a joke.  Why would anyone pay good money for that?.....PT Barnum was right.  There's a sucker born every minute.

[jorkany]

From a personal point of view I've got the money for the X1000 and have never used OS4.  So it will probably be my first OS4 machine.  However, though I have the money, I don't have the space for it at the moment, and not sure when I will!

You have plenty of time to make space for it - at least six months according to A-eon.

[DAX]

@mikeymike

The article you reference speaks of an OpenOffice port for the X1000.  Is this something "official" or just another rumor.  I can't find anything that states that Hyperion is working on an OpenOffice port.  Just a vague statement from Trevor Dickinson on the Obligement web site that it's being ported as a "Lite" version or a version for "kids".  $2225 for a system with a crippled version of Open Office and an an alpha version of Firefox is a joke.  Why would anyone pay good money for that?.....PT Barnum was right.  There's a sucker born every minute.

The only jokes around are the people that still do not understand this machine is not aimed at Amigans at large but a small population of developers and PowerUsers (read: enthusiast with enough money or "will"). It only serves as a vehicle for the first, to evolve the platform, and it's just a first step.

@roomeo
OS4 might get a seamless/trasparent OCS/AGA emulation layer invisible to the end users, it already has external utilities for that, it only needs to be integrated inside the OS. We'll see what happens.

[ferrellsl]

@DAX

There are probably only 10 Amiga PowerUsers left on the planet and most of them are employed by Hyperion.  Not a model of success, even for a "PowerUser" market.

And PowerUsers who only have an alpha version of Firefox and a vapor port of Open Office?  They must have self-delusions of grandeur.

[redrumloa]

I was'nt being rude and im not an unpaying advertiser who likes to spam forums. Please point me to any posts where I have spammed the forums.
 
I think your confusing me with someone else.
 
I wont be posting any more, I seem to remember why I never post here.

You are from Amigakit, no?
 
http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=2273
 
Feel free to post anywhere you'd like, like the other site where you enjoy badmouthing other dealers.

[DAX]

@DAX

There are probably only 10 Amiga PowerUsers left on the planet and most of them are employed by Hyperion.  Not a model of success, even for a "PowerUser" market.

And PowerUsers who only have an alpha version of Firefox and a vapor port of Open Office?  They must have self-delusions of grandeur.

TD said in the week end they have 150 people that want to beta test the system, with many (like me) waiting for the fully boxed product.
They will match what their aiming for, and as i said this is a first step.

[ferrellsl]

@DAX

Well, I do wish them the best.  I hope the X1000 turns out to be a success but after years of disappointments in the Amiga community it's difficult not to be cynical and/or skeptical.

[redrumloa]

@red
 
Not sure where your statement is coming from about Follett, but maybe a change to a decaffeinated brand of coffee may help. :roflmao:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=565953&postcount=91
 
Calling an original member / long time moderator a troll for repeating, without paraphrasing, a statement made by the head of A-Eon is pretty rude.

[Tripitaka]

The only jokes around are the people that still do not understand this machine is not aimed at Amigans at large but a small population of developers and PowerUsers (read: enthusiast with enough money or "will"). It only serves as a vehicle for the first, to evolve the platform, and it's just a first step.

I think DAX makes a good point. We still have a chicken/egg situation as far as power software being required to sell power hardware/ power hardware being required to develop power software is concerned.

Perhaps the end user market should stick to the SAM for now and let people like him that are willing to pay the price for the X1000 and develop new software we need get on with the job.

I for one salute anyone that helps push the Amiga platform forward with the use of time and money in a way I'm not in a position to do. I just hope that between them and the few rich kids who'll buy an X1000 regardless of price that this works out well for Hyperion. As part of the end user market myself, the SAM or a PEG II is a better option for now, until the chicken hatches at least.

SAM, PEG or X1000, all sales of OS4 put Hyperion in a better position. That's a good thing for OS4 either way.

[F0LLETT]

You are from Amigakit, no?
 
http://www.amiga.org/forums/member.php?u=2273
 
Feel free to post anywhere you'd like, like the other site where you enjoy badmouthing other dealers.

Well, Im not that person, and I have not bad mouthed any company.

I said one thing and it appears you have gone after me for no reason at all, apart from the fact that I work at amigakit.

Look if you have problems with amigakit, then thats your problem, not mine. Fact is I was coming here long before I started working at amigakit.

So can you please retract your statement where you accuse me of bad mouthing other companies.

[jorkany]

The only jokes around are the people that still do not understand this machine is not aimed at Amigans at large but a small population of developers and PowerUsers (read: enthusiast with enough money or "will"). It only serves as a vehicle for the first, to evolve the platform, and it's just a first step.

Okay, so where have these developers been hiding for the past six years? Are you saying they refused to buy the A1 and the SAM because they weren't priced *high* enough?

[ronpepin]

I did a quick calculation last night to utilize the rate of inflation from 1985 until today and considering the original price of the Amiga 1000's on introduction of  US$1295.00...  and, magically, the number in 2010 US dollars looks like it would be very close to $2500!

Considering the cost of the RGB monitor, which was the only one that was compatible with the Amiga at the time, that number goes higher than 2010 US$3000!  

On the other hand, it is not 1985 and one could say that the advantage of this new hardware in 2010 doesn't make a tremendously compelling argument.

That said, I am putting aside some money in an Amiga fund... :-)

Ron

[ajlwalker]

@redrumloa

I'm not sure this is appropriate behaviour from a forum moderator.

[Karlos]

I think the intimation (call it what you will) that the price will be in excess of 1500 UKP has gotten people pretty wound up.

Probably best if we all just sit back and relax. Arguing with each other and getting into off-topic personal spats isn't going to actually make it any cheaper.

[DAX]

Okay, so where have these developers been hiding for the past six years? Are you saying they refused to buy the A1 and the SAM because they weren't priced *high* enough?

AmigaOS development in the past 6 years has been spotty at best, Rogue over at AWs said many times they didn't want their work to be lost (ie: handed over for nothing).
Settlement has been signed a few months ago and both AOS Core Developers and aficionados devs, are tapping at the keyboard way more than in the past.
Let's see what happens now that both SW and HW are under control (a situation we never had unitll now).

[TheGoose]

"The only jokes around are the people that still do not understand this machine is not aimed at Amigans at large but a small population of developers and PowerUsers (read: enthusiast with enough money or "will"). It only serves as a vehicle for the first, to evolve the platform, and it's just a first step."

No, this has all happened before and is happening again. Phase5 and all its expensive, mostly out of reach, hardware etc.. Oh crap I'm sounding like Cylon. Even the CPU is essentially the same, ahhhh run, run away. :destroy: