The X1000 will be > $2,225

[dentunes]

Well, to be fair, all major console manufacturers have followed that route, recouping the cost in software sales. Furthermore, Microsoft can afford to make a loss on hardware, given the vast amounts of wealth they have at their disposal.

I really don't think it's a reasonable comparison here. Unless Trevor is a massively minted eccentric, I just don't see that model working here.

Fair call.

One model that has worked well is having one place to shop for all of one company's products along with other avenues. Dell, Apple for example. One marketing strategy for the whole range. From entry level, intermediate to professional. Take Apple, for example, Mac Mini, iMac, Mac Pro.

I manage a music instrument retail store and we have that philosophy across our range. "First guitar", next guitar, professional and so on through all product categories.

Currently, Amiga products are sourced from all over the place, even new products - unless I am missing something. Where is the Amiga store? A-eon produce one new model and create a whole company/site for it. I don't get that. Then again, I am not running any companies hehe

[Crom00]

With the cost of this new albeit SLOW by todays stanards Amiga. I just can't justify it.

For that cost I can configure a Tricked out QUAD boot PC (MacOs, Linux, Win 7, XP) and have money left ovr for a decent entry level laptop and run Amiga software on that faster than I could with the X1000.

Good luck to them though. I guess the market  for this machine is crazy Amiga fanatic that will spend beyond top dollar for old tech.

[Duce]

Horrible, horrible mistake if they are only offering this as an  assembled system in the long run.  I venture to say a good deal of the  prospective buyers - old timer Amiga guys - are more than willing and  skilled enough in the hardware department to assemble their own computer  from components.

For people willing to build their own rigs,  having a pre-built (and overpriced) system with what may be viewed as an  (IMHO) ugly case/keyboard/mouse is a big turn off.  I would not have bought my  SAM if it was only available in pre-built/complete PC form.  It's a  hobbyist system, and hobbyist system users like things their way.

Best of luck to them, I suppose - but I think it's safe to say if the new SAM board is fairly priced, it will sell like hotcakes compared to this.

[redrumloa]

It doesn't cost anywhere near what they are charging.

To be fair, we don't know the R&D cost. It would appear this is not a reference board with a boing sticker slapped on it (see the Eyetech boards). A good portion of the price is not just hardware itself, but R&D.

I don't know what A-Eon's business plan is or their projected sales, but unless I am missing something I think they are in for a rude surprise about how many systems they can sell at this pricing. Don't get me wrong, Trevor seems like a nice guy and I genuinely wish him well.

[dammy]

Well, to be fair, all major console manufacturers have followed that route, recouping the cost in software sales. Furthermore, Microsoft can afford to make a loss on hardware, given the vast amounts of wealth they have at their disposal.

I really don't think it's a reasonable comparison here. Unless Trevor is a massively minted eccentric, I just don't see that model working here.

For a tiny start up business like A-EON, it's about cash flow.   I'm sure the 75K EURO deposit from the pre sales of the 100 Dev boards will help in their cash flow.  Even more so if there is indeed more EUROs required on top of the deposit.

[Piru]

For people willing to build their own rigs,  having a pre-built (and overpriced) system with what may be viewed as an  (IMHO) ugly case/keyboard/mouse is a big turn off.

You're not alone in this assessment. The keyboard is just horrible:

It looks like the cheapest and flimsiest 50 cent chinese keyboard you can find, with plastic stickers/decals to re-brand it amiga.

Eow.

Oh and the price? 24€ / 27 USD / £20. Wo-ah, that's a nice markup for such a cheapo keyboard.

[dentunes]

What was also interesting was he mentioned when explaining the price was that things produced in the East would be far cheaper. This keyboard doesn't particularly look like it was manufactured even remotely close to the west.

[Crom00]

Yep a sticker is friggin cheap... NewTek uses OEM PC's made in China for the Tricaster line. At least they have the class to pad print (silkscreen) the NewTek logo directly onto the mouse and the Keyboard that comes with the system. The cost of pad printing is like at MOST is like 50 cents pwe unit. If they're getting ripped off then a $1.00 per unit. At the cost of the machine they can easily absorb that. Ugghhh....

[dammy]

I don't know what A-Eon's business plan is or their projected sales, but unless I am missing something I think they are in for a rude surprise about how many systems they can sell at this pricing. Don't get me wrong, Trevor seems like a nice guy and I genuinely wish him well.

I completely agree.  Everything I've read from or about Trevor, he seems like a really good guy.   I think what he missed from history was that C= made their money selling cheap stuff (C64, Vic20, Amiga 500/1200), not the big box items.  What sunk C= was they were unable to compete in the big box (486) market and were stuck with unsold inventory of slower 486s.   Bang:buck ratio sucked.

[DAX]

@Piru
Boing Ball (NOT a sticker)-------------------------------AmigaONE logo is well done too

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[itix]

@DAX

Big mistake have an alien boing ball mark there. Real Amiga keyboards had an italic "A" and/or C=. And it is not even Amiga branded but some obscure AmigaOne brand.

If they made proper Amiga keyboards I would happily by one for my Mac.

[Buzzfuzz]

Horrible, horrible mistake if they are only offering this as an assembled system in the long run. I venture to say a good deal of the prospective buyers - old timer Amiga guys - are more than willing and skilled enough in the hardware department to assemble their own computer from components.
 
For people willing to build their own rigs, having a pre-built (and overpriced) system with what may be viewed as an (IMHO) ugly case/keyboard/mouse is a big turn off. I would not have bought my SAM if it was only available in pre-built/complete PC form. It's a hobbyist system, and hobbyist system users like things their way.
 
Best of luck to them, I suppose - but I think it's safe to say if the new SAM board is fairly priced, it will sell like hotcakes compared to this.

Yep, I only want the board with processor and memory, I will add my own case, keyboard, harddrive and everything I would want on it.
But even memory I could add myself when I know what it is.

[Andre.Siegel]

@ DAX

Based on those pictures, the BoingBall(tm) and Amiga logos clearly look like "domed stickers" to me. Notice the small reflection/highlight in the lower part of the ball.

[Piru]

@Piru
Boing Ball (NOT a sticker)-------------------------------AmigaONE logo is well done too

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The keyboard is a flimsy looking el cheapo one. The "amigaone" decal looks like some rubbery thing that has adhesive for attaching. Many companies use these to "brand" their products, such as no-name chinese laptops. It looks cheesy.

The "boing" keys look out of place. What happened to the amiga A mark anyway?

[klx300r]

Oh. Another deadline, insane price, information still withheld.

This is much worse than even I imagined.

REALLY? wow this is quite shocking coming from someone that always speaks so positively about AmigaOS :roflmao::rolleyes:

[Tripitaka]

My first 486 cost £1500, it was an IBM Blue Lightning and it ran Doom like s*** off a shovel. Fast! Having said that, all PCs cost silly cash back then. I got an Amiga1200 the same year for £350 and both of them claimed an equal amount of my time. I enjoyed them both and I still have the A1200. Back then however was a very different time.
Roll on to 2010 and we see the Acer Aspire Revo R3600 at £215. A very nice Atom/NVidia combo for the money. We also have a credit crunch sqeezing our wallets.
Given the above I just can't justify £1500. IMHO I would rather have seen Hyperion putting cash into Pegasos and maybe getting a PEG III to market. I know that's not going to happen but I wish it would.
The SAM systems look far better value and the Natami still has my interest. Morph OS is also looking stronger now and with EMac support, well let's face it, a SAM and an EMac added together cost less than £1500.
I also think that maybe Hyperion missed the boat with the rise of the slate. A SAM plus touchscreen could have been worthwhile if done right (with flash and Photogenics for a start). As for the keyboard, yuck! The A4000 keyboard was pure elegance and still shines in my eyes. This X1000 thing looks way cheap.
I wish Hyperion luck and if I win the lottery I'll get an X1000 anyway but in my current financial state I think finding a PEG II looks like a better option.