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Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted?
« on: March 29, 2010, 08:41:00 PM »
Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted?
 
What can be installed in the trap door socket besides memory?
 
EDIT: Sad that the 68040 won't run on Kick 1.3 to save the original rom.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 08:44:30 PM »
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Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted.
 
What can be installed in the trap door socket besides memory?


1) Midget Racer 030.  

2) a lame PC emulator. lol
 

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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 09:03:48 PM »
I would have said the Progressive Peripherals PP40-500 was the best, at least in raw performance terms ;)

Fear it...
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 09:12:41 PM »
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Another look:
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/progressive540


Imagine the rush that would have given you back in 1992, eh?
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 09:13:16 PM »
Best one is Derringer IMHO, takes a reliable SIMM and wont turn your A500 into a micro wave oven (looking at 040).

http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/derringer

Also the Viper 530 t0tally pwnz: http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=67
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 09:20:10 PM »
Just for the hell of it, I wonder if anybody has ever considered the sidecar->zorro II mod and then shoved a Blizzard 2060 fitted with a 150MHz 603 PPC prototype board in there?

That would be one hardcore A500, though I suspect a tower case may be called for :D
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2010, 09:43:02 PM »
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Imagine the rush that would have given you back in 1992, eh?

I was happy enough with a modest Supraturbo28, in '93.
 

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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2010, 09:45:44 PM »
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I was happy enough with a modest Supraturbo28, in '93.

That board rocks. Much better than the ICD AdSpeed chip I might add too.

But yeah, I sort of always forget about the 040 cards that were available. What's the availability on something like that? Bet when you did accidentally find one, they'd be pretty cost prohibitive. Also, the heat exchange with 'em in an A500 case can't be all that great. I wonder what the reliability factor was like with 'em.
 

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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2010, 09:50:26 PM »
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That board rocks. Much better than the ICD AdSpeed chip I might add too.

But yeah, I sort of always forget about the 040 cards that were available. What's the availability on something like that? Bet when you did accidentally find one, they'd be pretty cost prohibitive. Also, the heat exchange with 'em in an A500 case can't be all that great. I wonder what the reliability factor was like with 'em.

Oh, I can well remember an Amiga Shopper review of A500 cards that included the 33MHz version back in 1992. IIRC it was around 1000 UKP when it appeared. Pretty much out of the question unless you already had a lot of A500 hardware and didn't want to replace it all with a new machine. The performance, however, was absolutely blistering, easily outpacing every other board by a wide margin.

Reliability wise, I can't say but I do know you had to have KS2.04 at least (there was a socket on the card for it I think) as OS 1.2/3 wasn't compatible.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2010, 10:33:28 PM »
I wonder what Phase 5 had in mind with the A500 AGA- upgrade....? What happened with the blueprints for that?

Ive tried the Blizzard Turbo board for A500, but unfortunately it wouldnt play along with the Trifecta HD at all, but its a happy couple with the Supra28. Together with Indy ECS, the A500 is a great experience again.

Would be real nice with USB too... Jens, PLEASE???
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2010, 11:21:28 PM »
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Would be real nice with USB too... Jens, PLEASE???

Up until recently, Amigakit had clockport adapters ($20-$30?) for use with Amiga 1000/500/2000. I always wondered if it would be worth hooking a Subway to it since I wasn't aware of any USB drivers for the 68000. Well, now there are (there was a thread about it recently here) and the clockport adapters are now sold out  :(

Looks like the 68000 can handle simple USB stuff like input devices and printing...
 

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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2010, 11:54:05 PM »
A few weeks ago I had a thought but did not want to start a thread on it. I was wondering, if the scematics of a previously developed accelerator card for the A500 become available, then how easy would it be to re-create this?
 

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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 12:24:54 AM »
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That board rocks. Much better than the ICD AdSpeed chip I might add too.

I'm guessing the AdSpeed was a disappointment, compatibility-wise?  Have you tried anymore tests since we last wrote?  

Unfortunately, I never got to see a manual for AdSpeed, that one was second-hand.  I wonder if there were some program parameter tweaks (stack size, etc) that might improve compatibility.

I'm trying your A2088 along with a new 4Meg ram card tonight in a 2000 w/ a Supra 28Turbo.  Wish me luck.

Back on topic - Best CPU mounted accelerator - 68010.  Big grin.
 

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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 12:49:00 AM »
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1) Midget Racer 030.  

2) a lame PC emulator. lol


Yep, lame PC emulator : http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/powerpc (not PowerPC like PPC !!!)
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