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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 12:49:00 AM »
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1) Midget Racer 030.  

2) a lame PC emulator. lol


Yep, lame PC emulator : http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/powerpc (not PowerPC like PPC !!!)
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2010, 01:08:09 AM »
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Yep, lame PC emulator : http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/powerpc (not PowerPC like PPC !!!)


:lol:  No kidding! How cool would that be... A500 running AmigaOS4.0 on a trap door PPC expansion board!

@Tenacious - I did test it with a few other programs that yielded about the same results. Compatibility not good at all. I may someday move that to another machine where the expansion RAM sits at a different address and see if that's the conflict. Honestly, I have more testing to do, before I make a solid conclusion. Most of the programs I was playing with needed the Fast Ram, so disconnecting it to check compatibility on a 512kb machine was counterproductive. I did have a SupraTurbo28 once. That didn't give me any problems whatsoever and I noticed a big improvement right away with that thing switched on.

So far, the cheapest "accelerator" solution I've found for a harddriveless A1000 is to optimize disks using B.A.D.! That thing seriously works  :)
 

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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2010, 02:03:24 AM »
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I would have said the Progressive Peripherals PP40-500 was the best, at least in raw performance terms ;)

Fear it...

a very lame board when you consider it only takes 8 mb ram. (and likely into Z2 space so blocking all other expansion !) I'ld take the viper/e-matrix 530 any day.:afro:
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2010, 02:07:17 AM »
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Just for the hell of it, I wonder if anybody has ever considered the sidecar->zorro II mod and then shoved a Blizzard 2060 fitted with a 150MHz 603 PPC prototype board in there?

That would be one hardcore A500, though I suspect a tower case may be called for :D

not a 2060 in there yet, but someone did a sidecar->zorro2 mod ... only a GFORCE'040 there it seems.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2010, 06:18:09 AM »
Zorro expansion card for up two Zorro boards, but the author can make an A2000-compatible connector.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2010, 09:46:00 AM »
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Up until recently, Amigakit had clockport adapters ($20-$30?) for use with Amiga 1000/500/2000. I always wondered if it would be worth hooking a Subway to it since I wasn't aware of any USB drivers for the 68000. Well, now there are (there was a thread about it recently here) and the clockport adapters are now sold out :(
 
Looks like the 68000 can handle simple USB stuff like input devices and printing...

 
Subway with Poseidon drivers (via clockport) is a no-go on stock 68000, needs a 68020 or better. ANAIIS will work for limited scope of devices (keyboard, mouse, printer, maybe even flashdisk).
 
At least one A500 user with PPS040 have it running on Poseidon; USB comes as part of Ethernet bridge adapter so A500 can go online. Speed appx. 100KBps, limited by availabale clockport bandwidth (1Mbit).
 
I (and few other member of this forum) tried to reproduce the same scenario, but without any significant progress. It seems that GVP A530 has some nasty tricks in basic design which kills performance of bare machine when USB stack is initialized, too many concurrent CPU polls through clockport, very disappointing.
 
Getting Zorro2 passthrough sidecar is way to go for A500 expansion options. You can stick an accelerator aside (or on top of CPU, whatever)and still have a single free slot for non-DMA peripheral, like X-Surf NIC.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2010, 09:49:33 AM »
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a very lame board when you consider it only takes 8 mb ram. (and likely into Z2 space so blocking all other expansion !) I'ld take the viper/e-matrix 530 any day.:afro:

That makes 2 of us.
 
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2010, 10:04:25 AM »
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a very lame board when you consider it only takes 8 mb ram. (and likely into Z2 space so blocking all other expansion !) I'ld take the viper/e-matrix 530 any day.:afro:

Actually, I don't think it was in the Z2 space. I agree that it would have been nicer if it had a SIMM socket but you can't have everything. 8MB is lame in hindsight but in 1992 that was a fair enough wedge for most users.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted?
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2010, 05:37:43 PM »
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Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted?
 
What can be installed in the trap door socket besides memory?
 
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I have a Derringer 030 myself. fitted with 50mhz 030, 50mhz 68882 and 32MB ram.
It rocks. in an a 500 it is lightning fast.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2010, 09:43:56 PM »
I used to have a Microbotics VXL-030 with the 8mb ram board.  It was quite fast and didn't have any compatibility issues that I remember.  It also worked very well with the old A590, if I remember correctly.  I often miss that old machine.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2010, 09:50:47 AM »
The DCE Viper 530 / eMatrix 530 is without a doubt the best accelerator for A500.

030@50MHz
68882@50MHz
128Mbyte RAM
IDE
SCSI II

However they are very rare and I've never seen one for sale on eBay in 10+ years and believe me I've been watching.

If one ever came up I would imagine it would go for silly money (£500+)
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2010, 12:25:58 PM »
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However they are very rare and I've never seen one for sale on eBay in 10+ years and believe me I've been watching. If one ever came up I would imagine it would go for silly money (£500+)

ok, i am going to be flamed ... however doesn't that show the need for such hardware?
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2010, 12:38:17 PM »
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The DCE Viper 530 / eMatrix 530 is without a doubt the best accelerator for A500.

030@50MHz
68882@50MHz
128Mbyte RAM
IDE
SCSI II

However they are very rare and I've never seen one for sale on eBay in 10+ years and believe me I've been watching.

If one ever came up I would imagine it would go for silly money (£500+)

Oh my, the wet dream of A500 expansion.

i guess most bang for buck is the Derringer option...
Although, no ide option on it.
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2010, 01:09:07 PM »
Hi,
I had (well still have) an Adspeed in a 1 meg chipram, 1 or 2 meg fast ram (on a Supra expansion). I added the switch so I change speed on the fly, but mostly I left it at 14 mhz because I didn't run into many problems. I remember having problems when I had my Baseboard installed - Unreal and a couple of others wouldn't work.

@Tenacious - I did test it with a few other programs that yielded about the same results. Compatibility not good at all. I may someday move that to another machine where the expansion RAM sits at a different address and see if that's the conflict. Honestly, I have more testing to do, before I make a solid conclusion. Most of the programs I was playing with needed the Fast Ram, so disconnecting it to check compatibility on a 512kb machine was counterproductive. I did have a SupraTurbo28 once. That didn't give me any problems whatsoever and I noticed a big improvement right away with that thing switched on.

So far, the cheapest "accelerator" solution I've found for a harddriveless A1000 is to optimize disks using B.A.D.! That thing seriously works  :)[/QUOTE]
 

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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
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Re: Best accelerator for the A500, CPU mounted
« Reply #29 from previous page: March 31, 2010, 05:34:32 PM »
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That's easy. The Viper 530. :-)

http://www.easygalaxy.net/cfamiga/2009/01/captains-log-star-date-2009011.html


Even your memory expansion is cool :)