Hyperion Entertainment CVBA and A-EON Technology CVBA announce strategic partnership

[dammy]

So in your view, what makes an Amiga?

It's not an Amiga, it's a AmigaOne.  That is what Hyperion has access to name systems, "AmigaOne."

[itix]

That depends on what you actually call an "Amiga".

For me, the last Amiga released was the A4000T, the others are simply spin-off solutions and marketing BS.
Others believe that the SAM and that this forthcoming X-1000 are Amigas too.

If the SAM is an "Amiga" then the last new Amiga was released only a year ago. On the other hand if SAM is not the Amiga then X1000 isnt either... Nobody waited for new Amiga 15 years. That is what I meant.

[Kronos]

I thought the last new Amiga was released about a year ago.

Huh ?

The GB1000 was "released" about 2 years ago, and I just don't see what else would justify the term "new Amiga" these days.

[Tripitaka]

Does it have a Paula chip?  How about a SuperPaula?

I guess that depends on what happens with the Xmos chip. Minimig on XMos? AGA on XMos? I'm a novice coder at best but I'd like to see some comments from those that know about these things. Could XMos be all the backwards compatability we need?

I would like to know if the XMos can boot without the entire X1000 booting too.
On my PC I can play audio CD's without booting up (with Asus Instant Music). If I could boot up just the XMos controlling a CD-ROM drive to use as a CD32 that would ROCK!!

Anyway I'm going well off topic. Great stuff Hyperion, now get a bloody move on and keep it going forward.

[itix]

Could XMos be all the backwards compatability we need?

Nope.

[amigasociety]

For me, I consider an real Amiga any computer that is officially made by or licensed to be made by the current legal owner of the Amiga OS or Amiga product line.  So, we know Hyperion now owns the legal right to the OS, so I consider anything they make official.

Now, being new to Amiga, I see many "possible" legal owners of the past Amiga history so I would be really scared to look into who was considered legal in the past.  :hammer::hammer::hammer::lol:

But for today, I consider the upcoming X1000 to be official.  I also consider the A4000Ts made buy Escom and Quickpack official also.  All the in betweens, I am still confused on who was on 1st, who went to second, and who stole to home.  :roflmao:

tj

[Piru]

Minimig on XMos?

No.

AGA on XMos?

Certainly not.

In fact I've yet to hear any valid use for the chip. Other than that it seems the whole marketing revolves around it now. The chip being as unusable as it is, the whole thing is heading for a disaster. But clearly I am wrong, just look at all the cool things that the FPGA on SAM made possible...

I would like to know if the XMos can boot without the entire X1000 booting too.

Unlikely. The chip needs a programming, which cannot happen unless if the entire system is operational.

On my PC I can play audio CD's without booting up (with Asus Instant Music). If I could boot up just the XMos controlling a CD-ROM drive to use as a CD32 that would ROCK!

Won't happen, not with XMOS chip at least.

PS. I made a quick informal poll among the "former AmigaOS users". They weren't exactly inspired.

[kolla]

But clearly I am wrong, just look at all the cool things that the FPGA on SAM made possible...

Not to mention those nice USB-port that still are not decently supported in OS4.

PS. I made a quick informal poll among the "former AmigaOS users". They weren't exactly inspired.

In the end it all boils down to usability and the pricetag. If it ships with hardware one can only make use of from Linux, and the pricetag is high, then it is rather pointless.

[klx300r]

In the end it all boils down to usability and the pricetag. If it ships with hardware one can only make use of from Linux, and the pricetag is high, then it is rather pointless.

..won't happen as Hyperion stated many times that it is currently porting Amiga OS4.1 to the X1000..Update 1 is very reliable on my Samflex@800 and can only imagine it will be better on the X1000 :-)

[kolla]

..won't happen as Hyperion stated many times that it is currently porting Amiga OS4.1 to the X1000..Update 1 is very reliable on my Samflex@800 and can only imagine it will be better on the X1000 :-)

I too can imagine things. Let's just say that I'm not overly optimistic, and that's a result from the trail of unsupported hardware in OS4, from the earliest AmigaOnes to the Samflex. I would be very surprised to see all devices on the X1000 supported and utilized from OS4.

[persia]

The owner of the Amiga name for computers has gone into occultation.  He's hiding in a well north of Tehran, Ahmadinejad drops by and tosses him bikkies every once in a while.

[Gulliver]

If it smells like chicken...be carefull it might be something else

Linux is NOT Unix, although one was built following the concepts of the other
ReactOS is NOT Windows, although one was built following the concepts of the other
OS4 is NOT AmigaOS, although one was built following the concepts of the other
SAM/X1000 is NOT an Amiga, although... well although Hyperion can use AmigaOS and AmigaOne name (I was going to put the concepts of the other, but it happens it doesnt share any concept at all of the Amiga)

So people, if you think the SAM/X1000 is great, and OS4 is great, then go along and use it.
But please dont be fooled, it is not an Amiga.

[klx300r]

@ Gulliver

so by this reasoning machines running OS3.5 and 3.9 natively are not 'real' Amigas???

[Gulliver]

No, an Amiga can run Linux/NetBSD/OpenBSD or whatever and still perfectly be an Amiga

It is not really what it runs, but what it is.

Maybe you got mixed up with the different concepts of AmigaOS and Amiga, one meaning the Operating System, and the other the hardware!

[persia]

Both belonging to AMiga Inc, but only one licensed out to Hyperion....

No, an Amiga can run Linux/NetBSD/OpenBSD or whatever and still perfectly be an Amiga

It is not really what it runs, but what it is.

Maybe you got mixed up with the different concepts of AmigaOS and Amiga, one meaning the Operating System, and the other the hardware!

[koaftder]

As far as I'm concerned, anything within the "family" is Amiga. All the 68k machines running classic, all the MOS stuff, AROS, AOS4, and all the hardware that floats those platforms, Minimig, GBA1000, Amithlon, and others.