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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2010, 02:56:44 PM »
I gathered from that ART interview with Rogue, that Hyperion wasn't planning on doing much if anything in the way of of updating 3.x. They're looking at 4 and the future... I don't see that making a goodwill gesture to the Amiga community would hurt their plans. That's assuming the court settlement would even allow them to open source 3.x.

BTW, last time I tried to DL AROS on the local library's LAN, I was getting speeds about like dialup. ;-) No way, I'm going to download a DVD ISO that way. ;-)
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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2010, 03:27:31 PM »
I think too AOS should go opensource.If there are no companies that can furtherdevelop it in fulltime in acceptable time and do bugfixes in acceptable time, then when there are many peoples that can do it enhance opensource make things faster.

WHen AOS is opensource this save me lots lots work for AFA OS.And i think AFA is enhanced lots lots more in the time.

Because it was hard to make AROS so much compatible that all 68k soft work, i use only when important necessary for new features AROS Code and i use if possible old 68k Code

and when AOS is opensource then nobody can say that AFA is a patch collection, because with AOS source instead of AROS source AFA is a AOS furtherdeveloping
 

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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2010, 03:30:09 PM »
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That's a lost game anyways, the basic features are hopelessly outdated and not suitable for the modern world. The only option is to create new OS inspired by "the amiga experience" and throwing all compatibility over board. It was something like this many of us wished for back when Gateway and Collas was running the show. Or wished MorphOS would do.



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That's not going to work as an opensource project. That is going to take way too much time for which you won't find enough spare time programmers.

Linux got only this far because it is sponsored on a yearly basis by millions of Dollars. Either because people are employed at companies to work on Linux related stuff or via other constructions.

Complete operating systems and programs running on it can not be created by merely open sourcing it. You still need a shit load of cash to have full time programmers working on it. That only works for Linux and nothing else.
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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2010, 03:33:24 PM »
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BTW, last time I tried to DL AROS on the local library's LAN, I was getting speeds about like dialup. ;-) No way, I'm going to download a DVD ISO that way. ;-)

There's a light version that's just a CD-ROM.  See the center square in the Icaros download page and make sure you've got 7zip on your PC to unpack it with.
 

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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2010, 04:09:00 PM »
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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2010, 04:16:31 PM »
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BTW, last time I tried to DL AROS on the local library's LAN, I was getting speeds about like dialup. ;-) No way, I'm going to download a DVD ISO that way. ;-)


Try these torrents.
http://www.stafverhaegen.be/aros/
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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2010, 04:20:42 PM »
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If open source were going to save the Amiga, AROS would be far better developed than AOS4.1.  Now, don't get me wrong.  I'm very much in favour of AROS.  I just don't think that AmigaOS should follow suit.

AROS would have been far better developed if many people just opened their eyes in 1995-2005. Most amigans, however, preferred to whine about how unluck their platform was, to wait for any deus-ex-machina god-like savior for the Amiga, to dream about "the comeback", and just ignored or even laughed behind the AROS project which was, consequently and obviously, unable to perform so many tasks: you can't write a whole OS in a month.

In the meanwhile, the whole Amiga platform suffered the progressing loss of brains and harms, which would have been really useful instead. How many good developers have we lost, for the new AmigaOS/AmigaOnes being so late? How many good developers would have we kept or attracted, if only most people helped, endorsed or at least respected the one and only community-driven effort to keep the Amiga philosophy alive and kickin'?

Today we would have a strong AROS and even stronger AmigaOS and MorphOS, since there's no motivation why the last two should have not used our code and/or solutions. People now respect AROS because Icaros has proven what it can do, because it has come to a good degree of reliability, and because it includes some of the most advanced technologies on any Amiga flavour, like Poseidon and Gallium3D: but just try to imagine what it could be, if only people did that all the time!
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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2010, 04:46:56 PM »
I saw at least ONE auction on eBay for a AROS disk;as far as I know there is nothing wrong with someone downloading AROS ISO ,burning  to DVD ,and  offering it at nominal cost to all.That probably is something official AROS site should offer.And sales of a $9.99 AROS DVD ISO could generate  some funds to buy developers pizza and pop.Or to take wife out to dinner as reward for not fussing about too much time spent programming!?

 The MorphOS  team sat down and wrote alternate OS for Amiga platform,didn't they?I'm not sure of status of  MorphOS 1.4 ,is it free,and does it run on 68k?
Neither have I seen any action taken against all the people who have written freeware/shareware enhancements to the AmigaOS.Yet many,if not most,Amiga owners never used those add-ons due to confusion of installation by the AVERAGE home user.Average home computer user just wanted to USE  Amiga or whatever brand,so wants OS in one easy to install(or pre-installed) package.
 I think Linux  is slowly catching on better now that one can get LiveCD/DVD automated installer for Ubuntu and other distros and having automated updaters and package managers is definitely  good."Geeks" may love moving OS files around but average users do not.So is Amiga to be ONLY for 'geeks"?
 The Apple business model of OS teid closely to hardware has worked well for them and their users and Apple has surely been innovative.
 Hyperion is smart to follow model of successful company .
 RE:patent and copyright lwas,I wish they had been left as pre-1976,so after 14 years maybe 28 with renewals the monopoly would expire.14 years ought to be long enough,but that is not the law today.
 

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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2010, 04:53:43 PM »
Seriously, if anyone in London wants me to burn them an AROS DVD or CD I'll do it for the price of one beer in their local pub :)

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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2010, 04:59:56 PM »
Well neither Hyperion or Amiga Inc would say that OS3.1s legal status is uncertain. They've settled it.

OS3.5 and 3.9 is another story however.

But one could tell Amiga Inc that we'd like a bakery and not only cake.

But I think that would seriously cross Hyperion.

So I repeat myself once again: Support AROS for your x86 Amiga which is OpenSource.
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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2010, 05:12:46 PM »
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Seriously, if anyone in London wants me to burn them an AROS DVD or CD I'll do it for the price of one beer in their local pub :)

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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2010, 05:32:50 PM »
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Egad! Even you have passed me in posts? :eek:


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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2010, 06:27:59 PM »
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I suppose next you'll want free food,cars, and houses?


Actually yes. Well not necessarily cars, but we can certainly open source food, clothing, energy and housing. I personally find it ridiculous that this day in age we have to work/pay for basic survival. WANTS, yes... NEEDS, no.

Sorry, a little OT, but I had to throw it out there.
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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2010, 07:07:02 PM »
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Egad! Even you have passed me in posts? :eek:


Perhaps, but you still have the medal. I've been trying for months to steal it from you but you are many XP ahead of me :)
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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2010, 07:46:10 PM »
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Egad! Even you have passed me in posts? :eek:
Imagine how many posts KennyR would have if he was still here?

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Re: We NEED AmigaOS to go open source
« Reply #59 from previous page: January 13, 2010, 07:48:00 PM »
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Imagine how many posts KennyR would have if he was still here?

I dare say we'd be looking at an ALTER TABLE to change a few id's to BIGINT as a precaution ;)

Seriously, it was years after his last post that anybody got past him. Despite not having posted for around five years, his average is still 2.83 per day :lol:
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