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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #299 from previous page: May 06, 2011, 12:51:25 AM »
Would you rather have the AmigaOne X1000 or a Natami?
I guess the real question is do you want AmigaOS4.1
or 680x0 compatibility?

If Amigas are just hobby machines I would prefer being able to run a high-end AmigaOs 3.1
computer than AmigaOS4.1 that feels just a little bit too much like Linux.
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #300 on: May 06, 2011, 01:13:14 AM »
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Would you rather have the AmigaOne X1000 or a Natami?
I guess the real question is do you want AmigaOS4.1
or 680x0 compatibility?

If Amigas are just hobby machines I would prefer being able to run a high-end AmigaOs 3.1
computer than AmigaOS4.1 that feels just a little bit too much like Linux.


The NatAmi is my first choice between these two as being the future replacement for my old A1200s for use on a daily basis... 68x all the way for me when it comes to the Amiga... :)

But the X1000 I also want just to see what it's capable of and replace my poxy iMacs for browsing the net... :)

(Still not keen on OS4.1 though but I suppose it'll do for browsing... :))
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #301 on: May 06, 2011, 01:57:33 AM »
Maybe you were being a little harsh there on Barry, Franko.
He'll probably sell more computers then A-eon and the Natami team combined.
And you can run Cloanto's software on them better then it will run on your Mac.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #302 on: May 06, 2011, 02:06:53 AM »
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He'll probably sell more computers then A-eon and the Natami team combined.
Maybe so, but either one is a hell of a lot closer to an Amiga than a PC clone board in a novelty case...
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #303 on: May 06, 2011, 02:17:21 AM »
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Maybe so, but either one is a hell of a lot closer to an Amiga than a PC clone board in a novelty case...

Probably true, in that they're both going to be seriously over priced.

And we all have our own opinions on what an Amiga can be.
From my viewpoint it can even be a Mac.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #304 on: May 06, 2011, 02:35:18 AM »
Quote from: Iggy;635785
Maybe you were being a little harsh there on Barry, Franko.
He'll probably sell more computers then A-eon and the Natami team combined.
And you can run Cloanto's software on them better then it will run on your Mac.


I could never be too harsh on Barry I promise you that... ;)

Yup he may well sell more of his PCs running emulators but then most folk that are buying from the "Fan" comments I've read aren't too bright... :)

I would want to run Cloanto's software (as good as it might be) on my crapple Mac (it's only good for the internet) and Amiga emulators are not for me, I  only like to use the real thing, just my personal choice... :)
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #305 on: May 06, 2011, 09:40:43 AM »
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Pitty they weren't making a laptop. Sitting in Starbucks with an Amiga laptop would have been cool.

How are they able to call it the AmigaOne? Wouldn't that name have been registered to Eyetech?


Laptops? how about tablet pcs?


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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #306 on: May 06, 2011, 09:45:11 AM »
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A-eon stated that they sourced them elsewhere with this announcement from the News section of their website. Due to the moronic design of that site it's not possible to directly link to news items, but if you extend the menu shaft by tapping on the menu head, and then touch the News ball, and select the article 22 Dec. 2010, you'll find this:

"Fortunately Varisys, our AmigaOne X1000 hardware partner, had a long-standing relationship with PA Semi and we were able to secure a supply of PA6T CPUs for the AmigaOne X1000 project"

What A-eon doesn't reveal is what source PA Semi directed them to. I presume it was a warehouse of new old stock, but who knows?



I thought that was the main arguments for sticking with PPC - because the x86 hardware changed too much over time?

Oh well.


There are embedded AMD and Intel CPU lines.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #307 on: May 06, 2011, 09:46:55 AM »
Hey franko, you use this guy "Barry"'s name all the time. You  have never met this man and know nothing about him, yet you make all kinds of assanine statements. its quit embarassing for yourself so you should stop while you are ahead. Your fetish pal "Barry" has done more with his commodore business project than you have ever done or will do so you should really refrain on commenting on the man's business plans.

additionally, do you really think that this Barry gives the slightest care of what some nutjob like you thinks?
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #308 on: May 06, 2011, 10:04:24 AM »
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Would you rather have the AmigaOne X1000 or a Natami?


The X1000 is merely a low volume PC with some dead-end PPC cpu, offering 2007 level PC performance at 2011 high end workstation prices. I fail to see the exciting thing in this.

The NatAmi is really something different, it's a true continuation of Amiga HW. It won't have as much raw cpu power and it won't be as usable for real life stuff, but it will be based on true Amiga HW technologies, which it will also extend and improve.

The X1000 I won't buy because it's *pointless*; it's unproven, underpowered, ridiculously overpriced and OS4 isn't even close to MorphOS when it comes to features, performance, Amiga compatibility. The whole package is redundant, no "raison d'etre"!

The NatAmi I won't buy unless its price comes down to about half of what they have talked about. It's a truly interesting piece of HW, and I would really want one, but it's simply too much money for me to spend on a "geek gadget" of this sort.

So I'll stick with MorphOS on my 1.5GHz/64MB VRAM Mac Mini, while hoping that the MorphOS team is about to announce upcoming ARM support as their post-ppc path to the future!

:)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #309 on: May 06, 2011, 10:08:17 AM »
Quote from: Motormouth;635763
Would you rather have the AmigaOne X1000 or a Natami?
I guess the real question is do you want AmigaOS4.1
or 680x0 compatibility?

If Amigas are just hobby machines I would prefer being able to run a high-end AmigaOs 3.1
computer than AmigaOS4.1 that feels just a little bit too much like Linux.

Neither of them. Am having nice maschines for MorphOS already and am considering an Arcade Replay board for 68k retro stuff.

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #310 on: May 06, 2011, 01:14:16 PM »
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Your fetish pal "Barry" has done more with his commodore business project than you have ever done or will do so you should really refrain on commenting on the man's business plans.
Oh, he's a successful businessman? Well slap me silly! Clearly that makes him completely above any form of criticism for any of his actions or plans!

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #311 on: May 06, 2011, 01:23:09 PM »
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #312 on: May 06, 2011, 01:29:13 PM »
Form over function, the case is retro, the innards netbook.  Is it the shape of the C64 that made it a best seller or what it did?  The shape was horrible, it sat too high to properly type on, you had to expand it with all sorts of stuff hanging off it.  But it was all worth it for the C64 Basic that was just sitting there waiting for you.  You have to remember US$600 was cheap for a computer back then.  Nowadays US$600 will buy you a DIY quad core behemoth.

It's PC bling, nothing more.


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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #313 on: May 06, 2011, 01:29:46 PM »
Lol!
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #314 on: May 06, 2011, 03:01:16 PM »
@magnetic: This whole C64x thing is pure shit: putting an "el-cheapo" PC inside a lame C64 case imitation is deceiving retarded people whose lifes are comsumed by work and don't have the time to check the true C64 and AMIGA revival projects souch as the Minimig, FPGA ARCADE or MCC-216.
So make yourself a favor and stop bashing Franko, who's a passionate Amiga user who has done much more than you for the Amiga divulgation with his page: you're being ridiculous in defending the idiots behind a sad, stupid product with NOTHING in common with the authentic alernative tecnologies C64 and AMIGA represented and still represent. You're so ridiculous I was with some friends reading it an we were laughting at your pathetic defense of souch a pathetic product, asking ourselves who's paiying you to do so :D