New Hyperion Entertainment Website http://a-eon.com/ - The Mystery Continues

[redrumloa]

Commodore were (rightly) lambasted for failing to market the Amiga or generate any real interest in it. At least this has generated some interest and without the usual flame wars. Although, I expect that'll start in earnest as soon as the actual specs are released

I would change this statement to:

Although, I expect that'll start in earnest as soon as the actual prices are released

:laughing:

[dammy]

I would change this statement to:

Although, I expect that'll start in earnest as soon as the actual prices are released

:laughing:

Question is, can they sell a complete Box with OS4 for under $500US with reasonable profit for the retailers.

[Tension]

Could Xena be a 680x0 in a FPGA?

[kolla]

Could Xena be a 680x0 in a FPGA?

What would be the point of that when software emulated 68k is faster and more complete?

[persia]

Yeah, the market is pretty brutal out there right now.  They need to be price competitive to have a chance.  But they know that as well as we do, so let's give them a chance.  Let's hope for a US$499 intro price complete with a 17 inch screen.  Another greater than US$500 motherboard would kill the enthusiasm for sure.

Question is, can they sell a complete Box with OS4 for under $500US with reasonable profit for the retailers.

[QuikSanz]

Hi,

This should be a no brainer but, shouldn't it be called an AmigaTwo?

Chris

[Nlandas]

Is that a Xilinx FPGA near the slots? Probably glue logic, but perhaps it's for something else?

Ah, glue logic or old custom chip emulation? Now that would be cool - a modern board with some backwards compatibility with old software. Now that's something I've been hoping for since 1995.

-Nyle

[haywirepc]

I don't think the hopes about price point are well placed. If people are willing to spend 550$ for a 667mhz motherboard...
 
Its reasonable to assume that they will pay 750$ for a greater than 1ghz board, and so that price would seem more appropriate to the people selling it.
 
Also, if this does include some custom chips or hacks to run classic apps better, they can justify the price being that high.
 
I for one will be really surprised if its 650$ or less.
I can't ever justify spending that much when for the same money I can literally get a quad cpu socket tyan motherboard with 4 quad core cpus plus 8 gigs of ram. - Essentially a 16 core powerhouse.  
That kind of brute force will blow the doors off anything amiga.
 
Yes I understand, its not about brute force or power, its about having the user enviorment you prefer, with applications you have become accustomed to and like and so on, but still, I feel like os4 is just a dead end running on old outdated spec processors. As it stands now, I'd be happy to have one, but I can't justify spending that much on what can not really be my main computer due to all the limitations they still have.
 
Lets hope they stop the puzzle crap and release the specs/info and price soon. I suppose this was their "Most ambitious project to date" ?

Until I see the specs, I'm not at all impressed. Interested, but not impressed.
 
Steven

[Nlandas]

@ Rogue:

Can I firstly say "Thank you" to you and the rest of the team...

...and then can I add "Where are the Atari-Style joystick ports?".    

LOL!!! We'll have to use a USB to Atari joystick adapter on one of the many available ports.  

[fishy_fiz]

In regards to price, personally I'd be willing to pay a little extra compared to an equivalent more mainstream system. Would pay up to around $500aud for mobo+cpu, but thats a beast of a system in x86 money (i7+high end mobo), so anymore and I'd have to really think hard about it, or have more regular work than currently. There'll always be a big gap in what AmigaOS can provide in terms of hardware power compared to x86, but this looks like it might have enough grunt to deal with things that are expected of modern computing at least, and as such it's made OS4 potentially interesting for me again (Im an aros and classic guy mostly). Good work to all involved

[LoadWB]

I for one will be really surprised if its 650$ or less.
I can't ever justify spending that much when for the same money I can literally get a quad cpu socket tyan motherboard with 4 quad core cpus plus 8 gigs of ram. - Essentially a 16 core powerhouse.  

I would like to know where you are sourcing your components.  Considering I price these systems nearly daily, your premise seems quite unrealistic.

[haywirepc]

Here is a quad socket motherboard for amd opteron with a starting bid of 65.00$ - http://cgi.ebay.com/Arima-AMD-Opteron-Quad-Core-Socket-F-3000-series-Server_W0QQitemZ390137085263QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Networking_Components?hash=item5ad5fb7d4f
 
No bids too... 1 day left on auction.
 
Cpu's and server ram can be found cheap too, if you know where to shop.
 
This is certainly just an example, if they charge 650$ or 750$ for this new amiga motherboard, you get so much less horsepower than you can get going with a tyan or similar quad socket board. Also remember, you don't need to populate the board with all 4 cpu's at once, you buy can one or two and wait for prices to come down on them before adding more.
Same goes for ram...
 
Before I bought a 1.0ghz power pc motherboard, I'd have to seriously consider buying a 16 cored beast of a linux pc. Hey I'm a big fan of 68000 series microprocessors, and power pc chips also, but there comes a time when you have to realize that your just limiting yourself and what you can accomplish with your computer by holding on to outdated tech.
 
The day that they port to x86, or get to modern cpu speeds another way, I will happily plop down just about any price for os4. Until then,
I merely watch and hope.
 
Steven

[nyteschayde]

I don't think the hopes about price point are well placed. If people are willing to spend 550$ for a 667mhz motherboard...
 
Its reasonable to assume that they will pay 750$ for a greater than 1ghz board, and so that price would seem more appropriate to the people selling it.
 
Also, if this does include some custom chips or hacks to run classic apps better, they can justify the price being that high.
 
I for one will be really surprised if its 650$ or less.
I can't ever justify spending that much when for the same money I can literally get a quad cpu socket tyan motherboard with 4 quad core cpus plus 8 gigs of ram. - Essentially a 16 core powerhouse.  
That kind of brute force will blow the doors off anything amiga.
 
Yes I understand, its not about brute force or power, its about having the user enviorment you prefer, with applications you have become accustomed to and like and so on, but still, I feel like os4 is just a dead end running on old outdated spec processors. As it stands now, I'd be happy to have one, but I can't justify spending that much on what can not really be my main computer due to all the limitations they still have.
 
Lets hope they stop the puzzle crap and release the specs/info and price soon. I suppose this was their "Most ambitious project to date" ?

Until I see the specs, I'm not at all impressed. Interested, but not impressed.
 
Steven

I can't agree more. $1000 for a primary machine is not out of the question but not for an Amiga running OS4 as it stands right now. It is simply too limited for the price point. As a secondary computer it would be difficult for me to justify much more than $500-600. Especially since I just upgraded my A1200T running OS4 with an Indivision. Although if the machine did what I wanted I might be willing to get rid of my system with the frustration its been causing me lately.

[Tron2k2]

Stelladapter :-)  USB to Atari style joystick adapter, made on purpose for Atari emulation but also works great for Commodore, Amiga, etc. emulations.

[Karlos]

@Karlos,

Sounds like <1Ghz clock speed. Thanks for the heads up.

Chris

LOL, I was thinking it was more likely to be 1GHz or more. For example, if it were using PWRficient, it could even be 2GHz. PWRficient would seem to tick all the boxes given what has been hinted so far, but availability of the processor would seem to preclude it.

[Karlos]

I would change this statement to:

Although, I expect that'll start in earnest as soon as the actual prices are released

:laughing:

That too