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Offline apj

Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2009, 05:48:38 PM »
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Also can't download from Aminet - netSurf says "please insert volume Amikit in any drive". Old version works without problems.

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Thats because of hurry again.
Please change download path in Resources/OPTIONS file.

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2009, 06:08:14 PM »
I dont know how installer work, but the installer should ask if the option file should install.
most users have own options and the settings need change for a classic to get faster speed.

>But start-up doesn't appear to be any faster.

normaly netsurf start very fast.I get report that it show on a classic after 6 sec the startpage.what time you get ?
 

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2009, 06:24:55 PM »
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However, when I try to post to A.Org I can't use the scroll arrow in the box to post my comment (I'm using my peecee to make this post as my A4000D has just frozen). This also happened when using the old version of NetSurf. Also the Scroll arrows don't always show but I can pian them in by drawing the pointer over them sevral times.
Weed
Yep, this happens over here too. And if you click on 'quick reply', netsurf selects 'quote'. And all the buttons [fonts/quotes/link/etc] aren't selectable (javascript ?).

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the file a have in OS3.9 is from 1997.and when i start netsurf on  winuae, it do not open this file.only usergroup.library
can you post snoopdos log ?    
I'll post it laterz.

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is netinfo.device need from other programs you use ?    
Not that i'm aware off.
Can someone kick usergroup.library ? Why use it anyway ?!

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2009, 06:58:50 PM »
>Yep, this happens over here too

that the cursor keys not work in a html input box have nothing to do if SDL or not,because inside a html page there cant use amiga GUI Elememts i think.

so i guess on OS4 or MOS netsurf move the cursor in a html textbox too not work and only backspace work ?

>Can someone kick usergroup.library ? Why use it anyway ?!

I dont know for what ixemul need usergroup.library, but i think when have AOS accessing rights, so for example java script can only access 1 dir is usefull.so i dont remove it.but what usergroup library really can do here i was too lazy to read.It work in that way and wy should i change a running system ;-)

          /* only use usergroup stuff when AmiTCP is started only */
          /* I call OpenLibrary() with the full path since
           * usergroup.library might open yet - some people bypass the
           * "login" command which loads usergroup.library
           */
#ifdef NATIVE_MORPHOS
          p->u_UserGroupBase = OpenLibrary("usergroup.library",1);
#else
          p->u_UserGroupBase = OpenLibrary("AmiTCP:libs/usergroup.library",1);
#endif

          if (p->u_UserGroupBase) {
         struct TagItem ug_list[] = {
             { UGT_INTRMASK, SIGBREAKB_CTRL_C } ,
             { UGT_ERRNOPTR(sizeof(int)), (ULONG)ix_u->u_errno },
             { TAG_END }
         };
         ug_SetupContextTagList(progname, ug_list);
         p->u_networkprotocol = IX_NETWORK_AMITCP;
         break;
          }
      }
« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 09:47:56 AM by bernd_afa »
 

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2009, 07:13:27 PM »
@bernd_afa
     
     
     Who is using an amiga with more than one user account in the first place?
     
  I've renamed netinfo.device and netsurf still runs fine. *:afro:
     
 
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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2009, 09:36:46 AM »
I get the idea to look in usergroup.library for text netinfo.device.

and i find it here.

I also take a closer look on snoopdos and see that on my system too netinfo.device is load.
but i get no memtrash.

I have netinfo.device with size 7604 from 12.Feb.1997

but anyway i disable the load of usergroup.library in future ixemul on default.
If somebody like to use (and know for what this can be usefull in praxis)then he can set the env var ixUseUsergroupLibrary

I find maybe a Bug in ixemul file ixnet_open.c.when the usergroup.library is not find(see above source), then this line

p->u_networkprotocol = IX_NETWORK_AMITCP;

is not execute, so ixemul do not work without usergroup.library.

I check on my system with patchwork.here the io request of netinfo.device is alloc with 24 bytes size.and thats enough to get no memtrash

strange, what netinfo.device you have ?

exec.library CreateIORequest(0x10490B08,24)
Severity 3: size is too small
PC=10E90E24 TCB=10F2C0B0 ("netsurf")
Data: 00000018 FFBFFFFF 0000003A 0000FFFE 10F123AC 00000000 FFFFFFFF 00000001
Addr: 10490B08 10F2C0B0 104893E0 10490B08 1048EFC8 10AADDE4 100008D4 10119892
Stck: 10119892 10E90E28 00000001 00000000 104893E0 10118A60 101198CE 10033C98
Stck: 10AADDE4 00000000 104893E0 1FFFBD8C 100008D4 11018690 00FBF2FA 101198FA
----> 10E90E24 - "AmiTCP:devs/netinfo.device"  Hunk 0000, Offset 00000144

exec.library CreateIORequest(0x10AADE40,24)
Severity 2: ioReplyPort not initialized
PC=10E9116A TCB=10EF4488 ("netinfo.device")
Data: 00000018 7FFFFFFF 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000001F 00000000
Addr: 10AADE40 10EF4488 00000000 10AADE40 1048EFC8 10AADDE4 100008D4 10EF54C4
Stck: 10EF54C4 10E9116E 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 10464CD0 100008D4
Stck: 1047F9B8 00000000 10E910E6 10AADDE4 10464CD0 00000000 00000000 10EF4488
----> 10E9116A - "AmiTCP:devs/netinfo.device"  Hunk 0000, Offset 0000048A

exec.library CreateIORequest(0x10AADE40,24)
Severity 3: size is too small
PC=10E9116A TCB=10EF4488 ("netinfo.device")
Data: 00000018 7FFFFFFF 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000001F 00000000
Addr: 10AADE40 10EF4488 00000000 10AADE40 1048EFC8 10AADDE4 100008D4 10EF54C4
Stck: 10EF54C4 10E9116E 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 10464CD0 100008D4
Stck: 1047F9B8 00000000 10E910E6 10AADDE4 10464CD0 00000000 00000000 10EF4488
----> 10E9116A - "AmiTCP:devs/netinfo.device"  Hunk 0000, Offset 0000048A
depth 32 hidden depth 32
Pixel Format 12
Pixel Format 12
Pixel Format 12
« Last Edit: December 01, 2009, 09:57:28 AM by bernd_afa »
 

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2009, 10:12:25 AM »
>Yep, this happens over here too. And if you click on 'quick reply', netsurf selects 'quote'. >And all the buttons [fonts/quotes/link/etc] aren't selectable (javascript ?).

al amiga pages use Java script.I see that because on internet explorer you can switch it so that a reqeuster come and ask user if he want execute scripts.

to see if its java script miss Problem or not, you can use a modern browser and disable Java script and look it its same.
 

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2009, 11:22:45 AM »
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I dont know how installer work, but the installer should ask if the option file should install.
most users have own options and the settings need change for a classic to get faster speed.

>But start-up doesn't appear to be any faster.

normaly netsurf start very fast.I get report that it show on a classic after 6 sec the startpage.what time you get ?


I get around the same 6-7 seconds. Start-up time for the most recent version and the previous one is aroudn the same. I don't detect any difference between the two versions.

@Artur - thanks for pointing out need to change the options file to set the download path. What other settings can I fiddle with in the options file other than screen size? Can I change the quick link buttons to show a different picture for each website? ie if I change the link in the options file for favourite_1 to http://www.bloomberg.com, how can I change the picture in NetSurf?

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2009, 06:17:31 PM »
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to see if its java script miss Problem or not, you can use a modern browser and disable Java script and look it its same.
Firebug is much nicer.

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2009, 06:46:26 PM »
Much better :D thanks :D some problems, I just clicked amiaworld APC/TCP news item and I couldn't browse APC/TCP site? When I scrolled page down amigaword just popped back.

If you could squece little more speed, it would be totally useable :D

Speed is not equvalent to aweb but differense is not really big.
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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2009, 07:33:43 PM »
Hm, i've noticed that when you set the WB to 8 bit (previously set as 32 bit), netsurf opens it's own screen and tries to open an 8 bit window too. Shouldn't this be set to 32 bit ? Next, netsurf crashes. Guru 80000004.

depth 8 hidden depth 8
bits per pixel 16 we want not
bits per pixel 16 we want not
bits per pixel 15 we want not
bits per pixel 32 we want not
bits per pixel 24 we want not
bits per pixel 8 ok
screen depth 8
window depth 8
Pixel Format 0
Pixel Format 0
Pixel Format 0
HWSURFACE create
bit 8 byte / Pixel 1 render buffer addr 153344E0
surface depth of SDL_VideoSurface 8
Using no Shadowsurface

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #85 on: December 02, 2009, 09:17:58 AM »
>Much better  thanks  some problems, I just clicked amiaworld APC/TCP news item and I >couldn't browse APC/TCP site? When I scrolled page down amigaword just popped back.

I test it and see that it seem not possible to show page correct when click on a banner.
maybe A User with OS4 netsurf can look if its on OS4 Version the same, to see if its a netsurf bug or a SDL Version Bug.
 

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2009, 02:53:20 AM »
Somebody can say to me wich its the minim system requeriments, request this NetSurf version.

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #87 on: December 03, 2009, 12:00:32 PM »
there need a 16 bit screen.

can somebody post time values of show and scroll from top to down of the http://www.amigaworld.net Page by press of Cursor keys ?

Here are values that look really slow

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=30109&start=0&post_id=523793&order=0&viewmode=flat&pid=0&forum=2#523673
 

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #88 on: December 03, 2009, 03:08:39 PM »
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there need a 16 bit screen.

can somebody post time values of show and scroll from top to down of the http://www.amigaworld.net Page by press of Cursor keys ?

Here are values that look really slow

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=30109&start=0&post_id=523793&order=0&viewmode=flat&pid=0&forum=2#523673


Bernd,

It took about 20s to follow the link to amigaworld.net and dislay the page. However when I scroll the page is corrupted (it becomes a mixture of A.org and amigaworld.net). This happens quite a bit when I follow links from A.Org.

A general observation is that Netsurf in a 800x600 window on a WB of 800x600, both betsurf and WB at 16bit is much slower than when I set the resolution of both at 1024x768 with 16 bit depth.

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Re: Netsurf V3.0 Amiga release 2
« Reply #89 from previous page: December 03, 2009, 03:46:01 PM »
when i type in netsurf http://www.amigaworld.net it work ok.I see when click on the link the problem too.


I find now out that netsurf scroll is 3* faster when use 32 bit.if you use 16 bit wb, then this setting can help to start netsurf in fullscreen mode.

best is when user let run netsurf on 32 bit.

to do that change in Options file

fullscreen:1

and some lines below

fb_depth:32

>A general observation is that Netsurf in a 800x600 window on a WB of 800x600, both >betsurf and WB at 16bit is much slower than when I set the resolution of both at >1024x768 with 16 bit depth.

You mean when run netsurf only with 800 width do too slowdown ?
 is possible because most pages are larger as 800 Pixel and so netsurf code need clip horizontal.

normaly netsurf should use at 1024 Pixel width so full Page can show without horizontal scroll.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2009, 03:51:25 PM by bernd_afa »