Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated AmigaOS4.0 Website

[Framiga]

ah . . and may i add a custom PCI card, to cook hot-dogs, without frying it?

[xeron]

@lou
If you give Hyperion all the Gamecube specs, including all the graphics chipset details (don't forget, the ATI chipset on the Gamecube is NOTHING even slightly like a Radeon), and pay them to port it, i'm sure you'll see your Gamecube port ;-)

[cecilia]

Thats the biggest problem that I see with you/Hyperion, you refuse to look out of the box that AmigaInc/Eyetech/Hyperion have built. Guess it's time to pop another bag of popcorn, this is going to be a long and funny winter.    Dammy

looks like someone can't appreciate sacasim.

[cecilia]

OK Rogue,  
1) Can OS 4 boot from a 1.875 MB of flashrom?

yes
detailed answer

[Louis Dias]

Well, there's an SDL library (yes 3D routines) port for GC code already. There's an SD card adapter (that I am importing 50 of for the GC homebrew dev community) as well as an SD card read & write API for GC-Linux...so you could plug in a 2GB SD card into a Gamecube and boot OS4 from that as has been done by modifying UBOOT on the A1 to boot from USB.

So in theory, porting UBOOT to GC and writing it to the 2MB of flashram that comes with the qoob Pro chip could get you OS4 on Gamecube (with the right graphics driver ofcourse).

Infact I believe a 486MHz GC can outperform a 600MHz A1 do to the Cube's ultra low latency memory access and faster bus (162.5 Mhz).  It also may have more cache than your typical G3...not sure.  Not too mention better floating point performance.

Also a Gamecube can read DVD R/RW discs...even boot from them with that same qoob "mod" chip.

A vga cable can be hooked up to the DV-out display found on Gamecubes built before May 04.

The GC-Linux build comes with PS/2 drivers for PS/2 keyboard hooked up to a GC controller-to-ps2 adapters.  Same could be done for a PS/2 mouse.  The Gamecube has 4 controller ports so you could have a mouse, keyboard and 2 controllers no problem.

A Gamecube system capable of running OS 4 can be put together for 1/4 to 1/3 the price of an A1 system with relatively equal performance.  Yes, this includes all the "addons" such as ps/2 adapters and mod chip.

@xeron
Why?  Have they gotten paid to develop it?  I would say they developed it and are now being paid by "pre-sales" and the so-called "licensing".  So maybe if they said they had a version ready for the modded 'Cube market, they could get paid by selling THAT version.  Mind you, what it would take to also have it run on an additional PPC platform is peanuts compare to the initial A1 development time.

[Tigger]

A couple of things:
1. OS4 is for Amiga hardware not Mac hardware and due to Apple's.

OS4 can run on all kinds of PPC hardware according to Hyperion's new website, why aren't they aiming it at hardware that is actually available??

Second, Eyetech make Amiga hardware not Hyperion.

Actually Eyetech doesnt make amiga computers, they sell rebadged terons, which I didnt comment about, Hyperion in the past did ports to the Macintosh of games from the PC, so they have Macs around they could get OS4 running on which is why I mentioned Macs and Hyperion together.

2. Mac Mini is too slow is because they haven`t provided enough memory. 256MB is bare minimum, up grade it to 512M or even 1GB to best of Mac OS X.

That may or may not be true, it has nothing to do with the issue.  Right now there is no hardware available to run OS4, Apple sells more Mac Mini's in a day then Eyetech has ever sold AmigaOnes, since there is a OS4 hardware shortage, maybe they should port it to something people can actually buy.
    -Tig

[billt]

> Why did Hyperion spend a Lot of effort to make the
>site Ibrowse-compatible instead of making it
>CSS-compatible, if their intend real is to *sell*
>their product to someone at real world? Real world
>has Firefox, Opera and Internet Explorer, real
>world clients don't use Ibrowse or Aweb..

How better to make a potential customer wary than by making a web site for an OS that the OS cannot view? Yea, sure, that's really a limitation of the web browsers and not the OS itself, but still, no user of AmigaOS has a good experience with CSS web sites...

Though I think we'd all hope that the OS4 web site would become CSS standardized very sortly after a CSS enabled browser becomes available for the OS. I didn't see anything that looked bad under Firefox anyway, CSS standard or not...

[T_Bone]

> As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine
> has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.

Oh, I don't know, I can imagine some pretty big companies!  :-P

[Tigger]

Poster: T_Bone  Posted: 2005/10/31 16:09:58

> As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine
> has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.

Oh, I don't know, I can imagine some pretty big companies!

I imagined I was shopping at the #1 company in the fortune 500 today (oh wait I was at Walmat), and I had a telecon with #10 & #25 today and then went ang bought gas from #2, before stopping to buy groceries from #21, and then picked up some 2x4's from number #13, so why this belief that we can't imagine how big a company Ben??  I dealt with 6 of the top 25 today??  
     -Tig

[Argo]

I believe his comment was meant for one specific small minded individual.

[Waccoon]

HyperionMP:  As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.

I dunno.  Some large companies have licensed AA or DE or WhatEver and that hasn't panned out too well so far for the Amiga as a platform.

DFergATL:  Gee, I thought this was supposted to be a "Warm and Friendly community"

10+ years of lies and broken promises tends to wear down the most generous of communities.  OS4 is kinda overdue, and most of us can't foot the bill to give it a test drive.

Rogue:  Thinking that we made an AmigaOS site Amiga browser compatible because we wanted Amiga users to be able to read it is quite absurd.

What's more absurd is thinking about why IBrowse should be supported when HTML was invented to describe content.  Amigans should have no trouble seeing a website in any browser.

Of course, it may look pig ugly.  :-)

Lou:  Can OS 4 boot from a 1.875 MB of flashrom?

Any computer can boot off a flash card if the BIOS suports it.

Oh, and must you hijak every damn thread on this website with a discussion of Gamecube or Revolution?  Why not XBox 360 or PS3?  They're not that much more expensive than Nintendo's offerings, you know.

[Glaucus]

@Tigger,

I can understand your skepticism, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. So what if he over stated the size of the imagined company, I think you missed a very obvious (and important) question: WHICH parts of OS4 have been licensed?

  - Mike

[Tigger]

I think you missed a very obvious (and important) question: WHICH parts of OS4 have been licensed?

I didnt miss any question.  If it was a significant portion and Ben was competant he should have said something like, a major company has licensed the OS, or a major company has licensed the emulation layer, the HAL, .. etc, you get the idea.   Instead Ben posted "As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine has already licensed parts of OS 4.0".   Which means someone licensed something insignicant of the OS, which Ben and company either supplied the licensee with source code they will put on their hardware or did the port for them.  An OS isnt something you really license part of, so Ben is telling us they are endrunning AI, or its an insignificant part, like when I license fonts for the heads up display for the Apache.  Hyperion-Amiga Font, official font of Panasonic DVD players in Germany, just isnt really as big a story, but thats probably something like what we are seeing here.
      -Tig

[Louis Dias]

@Waccoon

And must you go around trolling my posts?

How did I hijack this thread if others have mentioned platforms they'd like to see OS4 on?

Infact the OS 4 website insinuates almost any platform is possible.

So stay off of the bridges I cross.

[Quixote]

;-) Now this is the sort of news I keep hoping to see.  Anything that hints that OS4 is alive and kicking is welcome to me.

:roll:  We could do without some of the griping and nitpicking from the regulars, though....

[dammy]

Poster: Quixote  Posted: 2005/11/2 4:27:42

Now this is the sort of news I keep hoping to see. Anything that hints that OS4 is alive and kicking is welcome to me.

The question is just how much validity can one give such a statement coming from Hyperion.  There maybe a glimmer of truth burried somewhere, but I wouldn't be very suprised to find out the majority of what they have said is spin to keep the faithful appeased.

My bet, if they have indeed sold some code, it was only code that had no connection to Amiga Inc's IP.

Dammy