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Offline Argo

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2004, 07:52:09 PM »
You can read our editorial on the litigation here:
The Downward Spiral of Amiga, Inc.

You can reach the court documents obtained by Rich Woods and made public here.

You can view the contract here starting on page 4.
 

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2004, 08:02:59 PM »
Thanks man!

:lol:

You made my day. :-)
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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2004, 08:06:52 PM »
@KennyR

That´s not links or facts, thats writing quotations. They might be fake for all I know. And they might be taken out of their context.

When were u supposed to recieve the t-shirts? Did they give any date? Did anyone claim their money back? Did they recieve their money?

Phase5 didn´t take AmigaOS anywhere. They made hardware and managed to get some developer support.

I´m sure you would love Amiga Inc to give away trade secrets in Fleecy´s Q&A, but who in corporate america does that? Ask stupid questions, get what you ask for.
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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2004, 08:14:46 PM »
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Hey Mike. He's got a point..

What was that?


....

aside from that, I fail to see how two broke companies suing each other, successfully or not, makes it a great day.  If both of them aren't already broke, they very soon will be.
 

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2004, 08:15:27 PM »
@Gopal

Unfortunately I do remember some of them. They rushed too much to announcing stuff in the beggining. But I'm not pursuing damages from them :) Specially for announcements.
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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2004, 08:19:07 PM »
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What are they trying to accomplish?
Isn't it obvious? They know that without the Amiga name stamped on their software/hardware package they're dead in the water, and this is their pathetic attempt at getting it - even if it is only for the AmigaDE. It won't work for me though, if the AmigaInc/Hyperion effort fails, it will be the last nail in the coffin for Amiga as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2004, 08:24:03 PM »
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Gopal wrote:
That´s not links or facts, thats writing quotations. They might be fake for all I know. And they might be taken out of their context.


Click.

That's not taken out of context, or a rushed announcement. That's a blantant, obvious lie. McEwen did make rather a lot of these claims, before he went silent.

Amigans may be despressed and think the future is bleak because of this court outcome. But believe me, I'm far more depressed that people still run to support Amiga Inc even when they don't deserve such support. I just can't see any reasoning for except that they have the Amiga name. And that, to me, really, really makes the Amiga community futureless.
 

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2004, 08:25:51 PM »
@KennyR,

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By the way, FFS how come Genesi doesn't win anything? They are direct competitors!


Wrong.
Oh you mean Amiga Inc are not direct competitors with Genesi? What, are they in some alliance I'm not aware of? How do you explain the law suit, or the fact that they're both marketing an almost identicle product to the same mico-market. I don't think you need an MBA to understand that the two are at complete odds with each other. THERE IS NO CHANCE OF AN ALLIANCE! Only one of the two can come out ahead, but the way things are going it seems that both will end up losing everything.

I'm just hoping AROS is finished soon as the x86 AmigaOS will wipe-out any chance of a PPC-AmigaOS anyway.

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2004, 08:25:53 PM »
Hyperion's point of view

According to my sources, Amiga Inc. lost because they had no legal representation.
 

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2004, 09:02:14 PM »
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According to my sources, Amiga Inc. lost because they had no legal representation.


So it's kind of a default judgement (not for the first time)?
 

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2004, 09:06:15 PM »
Ok, I give up.

But thats an interview, and stuff might sound different when he said it than they do in print.
The reason I mention this is because McEwen is a pro, and didn´t say that if he knew he could not deliver.

So in the end you are right, but I´m sure he didn´t know he was telling us a lie at the time (or even used those words).
McEwen has been carefull how he uses words not to promise, but to "inspire" and promote. Some might sounds like promises, but are hopes/dreams.

I bet he (and/or Amiga Inc) even intended to ship those t-shirts before getting into economic trouble.
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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2004, 09:08:46 PM »
"magnetic: keep it down. there will be no trolling/flaming in here, or this whole thread will be locked"

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2004, 09:13:10 PM »
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McEwen is a pro


Yes, he is a pro truck driver. He is not a businesman.

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I bet he (and/or Amiga Inc) even intended to ship those t-shirts before getting into economic trouble.


It's already on record that Aminga Inc. were in deep "economic trouble" long before the T-Shirt scam was planned.

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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2004, 09:26:39 PM »
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"magnetic: keep it down. there will be no trolling/flaming in here, or this whole thread will be locked

/me heads to ann.lu to look for samface
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T_bone: I dont know what that means.  But if you're implying starting trouble or getting on my nerves, I'll have no problems locking your account.
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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2004, 09:48:12 PM »
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"...and the full use of the Amiga trademarks"



Heh . . .heh

Yeah, but we all know that the Genesi/Morph/Peg people all disparage "the name" anyway. So we'll NEVER see them use an Amiga trade mark or even try to suggest that they're like Amiga. . . . RIGHT?

Paul

Lets' see. . . no Amiga bootcode. . . no OS4. . . . and no underlying operating system on which to run AmigaDE. Yup, that's sure going to be "an Amiga" isn't it???

BBRV and gang have an interesting way of defining trademarks then.
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Re: Genesi Won Lawsuit against Amiga Inc.
« Reply #74 from previous page: February 20, 2004, 09:50:04 PM »
!? Calm down man!
He posted a joke that you wouldn't understand unless you have indepth knowledge of the flamewars
at ann.lu.:-) Most of them have something in common... Samface. Until recently, they also had
me trying to find some logic in his comment;-)

By the way, I do not think that "I'll have no problems locking your account" is a nice way
to reply, neither something that you should do so lightly. This is constructive criticism and I
would gladly keep it private if you want.
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