Report on DCE Repairs

[takemehomegrandma]

But thats the point its not an amiga.

That's why he wrote "Amiga"  :-P ;-)

[FarQuad]

@amigamad,

But thats the point its not an amiga.

In case you haven't noticed, no one makes Amiga computers any more.  I don't care how you want to defend it, and it doesn't matter whether you want Eyetech's solution or Genesi's.  The only possible solution that you can get now are "Amiga Compatible" systems.

If Amiga Inc fails tomorrow, are you going to still rabidly defend the AmigaOne because they licensed (and some say killed) some intangible piece of paper which was labelled "Amiga trademarks"?

AmigaOne != Amiga just because someone wants to call it that.  MorphOS runs Amiga software, AmigaOS 4.0 reportedly runs Amiga software.  There is *NO* AmigaOS 4.0 software, so what the hell is the big fury over that?

The only safe bet here is to back the company who is actually producing something and have the money and business plan to back it up.  Bill Buck is meeting with Senators and Wall street attorneys.  He's also showing off the Pegasos to high tech businesses and selling the boards by the hundreds.    What's Bill McEwen doing these days aside from hiding in Montana getting his nails done?

//FarQ

[Warface]

Nice Gesture as always.

[Ryu]

as ever the same only argument goes on.... I really do wish you lot arguing over the same things day in day out would just STFU once in a while....

[Hooligan_DCS]

>AmigaOne != Amiga just because someone wants to call it that. MorphOS runs Amiga software, AmigaOS 4.0 reportedly runs Amiga software. There is *NO* AmigaOS 4.0 software, so what the hell is the big fury over that?



The same old: lacks the Name

[Damion]

Definately a nice gesture from Genesi...and also
the availability of MOS for the older systems for
free.

There's something about this announcement that reminds me of the Berlin Wall coming down.

:lol:

[amigamad]

The only possible solution that you can get now are "Amiga Compatible" systems.

Your wrong the amigaone would not be called an amiga if it was not an amiga that would be plain stupid. :-?

[cdfr]

@Amigamad

Does this mean that if AmigaInc goes down and Eyetech has to sell an EyetechOne running HyperionOS4 all of the people using this argument will not buy these and wait for someone producing new Amigas ?  :-o

[FarQuad]

Your wrong the amigaone would not be called an amiga if it was not an amiga that would be plain stupid.

It can't be any more stupid than your argument.  

If Microsoft (Amiga Inc's "major partner", remember?) were to create an x86 system and call it "an Amiga", would that make it "an Amiga"?  Of course not.  How does Eyetech calling their repackaged Teron motherboard "an Amiga" make it an "Amiga"?  Hyperion doesn't even have an Operating System and if they did, it will be HyperionOS, so I won't even fight that section of the argument.

[bloodline]

FarQuad is right, there is no such thing as an Amiga any more. Other than Price there is almost nothing to tell the Pegasos1 and the AmigaONE apart (Firmware is not an issue since, Any OS could be bootstraped by any firmware)

There aren't any real computers anymore, just a collection of interchangable parts.

The Computer has become a commodity! All the internal components are commodities!

A badge/lable/sticker does not make an Amiga. There are no more amigas, just as there aren't any more spectrums or amstrads etc...

Imagine if one were to have clung tothe C64 (I know many did) and refused to look at the Amiga, unless it had been called the Commodore1000... it's weird, raelly weird.

Amiga is now about the community, and it should be about the community taking control of it's own ideal of how a computing platform should be, be that PPC or x86... be it closed source or open source... be it custom hardware (does that exist any more) or industry standard...

We get to choose now! not some company!! Enjoy it, it may be your last chance!!!

[Hooligan_DCS]

My two cents.

first cent:
AmigaOne is not an Amiga until AmigaOS4 is finally being ran on it. And I don't mean quick-grab-together-it-runs-lets-have-a-party, but a real enduser Operating System which can be used in every day use.
(Yes, this hold even if some people would want to run Linux on it after OS4 is released, for some obscure reason :-) )

second cent:
If MorphOS were to be called AmigaOS4 today, pretty much everybody would be happy happy joy joy praising how good it is. But as it's not, we're always facing these same comments and semi-discussions. In the end the only thing it really lacks is the name.


the name of the game -abba

[opi]

@TheHooli

 Aaaaaaamen to that!

[Floid]

KennyR said,

There's something about this announcement that reminds me of the Berlin Wall coming down.

Between this and OS4, you know the world's about to end.  :-o

Hats off to people doing the right thing.

[System]

Neko!!! your avitar looks just like you

I know, it's great isn't it?

My nail varnish is blue today, though

=Neko=

[Acill]

@Ron
Awsome news! I decided yesterday that I was not going to be getting an AmigaOne and ordered a new G4@1000 Pegasos II system. MOS is so clean and it runs all the Amiga Apps I like to use, plus new stuff made just for MOS. It has the feel of an Amiga I love so much and more. I cant wait to get my CSPPC card back and now be able to run MOS on that as well!!

I know a lot of you love Amiga, but I think Amiga Inc. has lost touch. They have no OS out yet, the system they sell is way out of date now, and I have yet to see any good developers. Genesi is on a mission and sprading the word all over the world showing ACTUAL systems with the ACTUAL OS you will get with that system. Something Amiga Inc.should have done from the start!

[System]

Your wrong the amigaone would not be called an amiga if it was not an amiga that would be plain stupid

Well.. slap me with a haddock and call ME an Amiga.

If I wanted a Linux box, I'd have one. As it stands, I don't quite like Linux (BSD rules more) so there's little chance of me buying a box simply to run some boring KDE desktop.

I have a Pegasos not because I slavered and drooled for one and had to spend my money on it asap, I have one because I wrote Amiga software once, and migrated to writing MorphOS software - and I got one as part of my job  at Genesi, which was good, since my PPC Amiga died a hideous, drive-scorching death. I loved that bit of kit, having a PPC A1200 was something unashamedly geeky yet cool (and I had the best one too, onboard SCSI and a BVision and everything.. yeaaahhh!!!)

The Pegasos is a neat replacement for it, but I know it's not an Amiga. I don't expect it to be. I don't hanker for that Amiga feeling. I just need to do my work. If I can create something neat on it, that is what makes it cool. Not "how Amiga-like" it is.

Amiga is what you make of it. For a lot of people, a Pegasos running MorphOS is as Amiga as it gets these days - certainly a lot more Amiga than running Linux and UAE with MacOnLinux minimized in the background.

But if Linux and UAE and MacOnLinux was my job, I'd run it anyway, whatever they called it.

=Neko=