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Offline System

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #29 from previous page: October 21, 2003, 12:21:12 AM »
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Your wrong the amigaone would not be called an amiga if it was not an amiga that would be plain stupid


Well.. slap me with a haddock and call ME an Amiga.

If I wanted a Linux box, I'd have one. As it stands, I don't quite like Linux (BSD rules more) so there's little chance of me buying a box simply to run some boring KDE desktop.

I have a Pegasos not because I slavered and drooled for one and had to spend my money on it asap, I have one because I wrote Amiga software once, and migrated to writing MorphOS software - and I got one as part of my job  at Genesi, which was good, since my PPC Amiga died a hideous, drive-scorching death. I loved that bit of kit, having a PPC A1200 was something unashamedly geeky yet cool (and I had the best one too, onboard SCSI and a BVision and everything.. yeaaahhh!!!)

The Pegasos is a neat replacement for it, but I know it's not an Amiga. I don't expect it to be. I don't hanker for that Amiga feeling. I just need to do my work. If I can create something neat on it, that is what makes it cool. Not "how Amiga-like" it is.

Amiga is what you make of it. For a lot of people, a Pegasos running MorphOS is as Amiga as it gets these days - certainly a lot more Amiga than running Linux and UAE with MacOnLinux minimized in the background.

But if Linux and UAE and MacOnLinux was my job, I'd run it anyway, whatever they called it.

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2003, 03:33:50 AM »
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AmigaOne != Amiga just because someone wants to call it that. MorphOS runs Amiga software, AmigaOS 4.0 reportedly runs Amiga software. There is *NO* AmigaOS 4.0 software, so what the hell is the big fury over that?

AmigaONE=An amiga because it is officially supported and licensed by AmigaINE, it does not make it better though, but it is an amiga, wheter you like it or not. Pegasos is not an amiga, but pegasos heh   ;-)
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2003, 03:37:30 AM »
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If Microsoft (Amiga Inc's "major partner", remember?) were to create an x86 system and call it "an Amiga", would that make it "an Amiga"?

Yes, if amigaINC supported it yeah offcourse it would... Why is an ibm a ibm? why is a gateway a gateway? It is just the name... the name has nothing to do with what kind of hardware it is.. even a mac is mostly a standard ppc clone this days..
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Hyperion doesn't even have an Operating System and if they did, it will be HyperionOS, so I won't even fight that section of the argument.

Well, dont you think that Amiga os 3.5-3.9 is a AmigaOS? AmigaINC did not produce that OS themself either,  Haage & Partner did... The orginal AmigaOS was not done by commodore either, it was done by some british company...
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2003, 03:54:35 AM »
This whole 'name" argument is null anyhow...if Commodore
had stayed afloat, let's not forget they were going to
DUMP the "amiga" name, and release "Hombro"
(or whatever) and what after?? 'Diego'? or "Burrito 98million -
fifty?"

Chances are that the LAST thing we'd be seeing in 2004
from C= would be a 'new amiga'.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2003, 07:57:19 AM »
Change the PCB abit, add a standard CPU socket for both the PPC and the 68k.
And then add a 300 MHz+ PPC
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2003, 10:10:51 AM »
These days behind "Amiga" there is company that prefers working for microsoft. They are total failure, they weren't even able to produce t-shirts!
So the legal entity that bears amiga name is not worth having it.

What else is left? "Hyperion" and "Eyetech". How much more amiga is that than "Genesi" or "bPlan"?
It isn't! They all are amiga-related companies but none of them is that true, original amiga/C=.

What is amiga for you? For me its simple and nice OS, its community, its software that I like, its alternate way of looking at computing, big-endian machine, etc.
But these things apply equally well for both Peg+MOS and A1+OS4.

Look for machine that has amiga look'n'feel you like, not the machine that has amiga sticker on it that you got used to.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2003, 10:17:11 AM »
It seems that almost every news post or forum thread ends up in an Amiga vs Genesi thing ... Lets stay on topic !
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2003, 10:19:07 AM »
A friend of mine has sent in the past a BlizzardPPC+Ram to DCE for repair. After a year, he received the blizzad card back without ppc cpu and without ram.

Any plan for this thing? DCE really sucks, instead nice point for Genesi.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2003, 10:29:12 AM »
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Well, dont you think that Amiga os 3.5-3.9 is a AmigaOS? AmigaINC did not produce that OS themself either, Haage & Partner did... The orginal AmigaOS was not done by commodore either, it was done by some british company...


Don't talk about stuff you don't understand.

AmigaOS was developed by the Commodore-Amiga team, only some parts of CAOS were behind schedual, so MetaComCo (some British company as you put it) grafted parts of the TripOS Kernel into AmigaOS, this became what is now known as the dos.library.

research your facts before you post.

Sorry for this Off-Topic rant on a subject most of us already know.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2003, 11:10:29 AM »
Just a quick question....

Is it possible to switch the 68040 on the Blizzard Card off?
Mine gest VERY VERY VERY hot, and since MorphOS won't need the 68k (I assume we get the 68k JIT) it would be best to not have it running.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2003, 11:21:52 AM »
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AmigaOS was developed by the Commodore-Amiga team, only some parts of CAOS were behind schedual, so MetaComCo (some British company as you put it) grafted parts of the TripOS Kernel into AmigaOS, this became what is now known as the dos.library.


Pop quiz: which company created Amiga Basic for Commodore? :-D
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2003, 11:47:36 AM »
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Pop quiz: which company created Amiga Basic for Commodore?


hahaha, funny you should mention that. I found the A2000 AmigaBasic manual...

I was horrified to notice that it has no mechanism for waiting for events, one has to construct a busy loop to poll all the events your program handles!!!

No wonder it was so lame.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2003, 01:01:10 PM »
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Poster: Kees Date: 2003/10/21 11:17:11

It seems that almost every news post or forum thread ends up in an Amiga vs Genesi thing ... Lets stay on topic !

I agree, Kees.

How to destroy an important and Official Thread (at least for some of us) in an annoying, unuseful and . . . in the time of one morning :-(

Cheers
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2003, 02:28:18 PM »
Usual suspects took it of topic  :-(

JoannaK: turned the steering wheel a bit
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And nowdays.. those peope who did original designs have new plans and


Followed up superbly by neko grabbing the wheel and turning a into YA-Amiga-Genesi Thread

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.. buy a Pegasos! For $299 you can get a 600MHz "Amiga"


 :smack:  :roll:
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2003, 03:18:33 PM »
@Bloodline

I do not believe so.  You still need to boot the system with the Kickstart first, so you need the 680x0 CPU for that.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2003, 03:30:45 PM »
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I do not believe so. You still need to boot the system with the Kickstart first, so you need the 680x0 CPU for that.


Ahh but, and Ralph is the best person to ask I guess, can the 68040 be switched off once the PPC has taken control? I know the 68060 has power management modes, does the 040 have these?
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