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Report on DCE Repairs
« on: October 20, 2003, 05:22:06 PM »
CyberStorm Warranty Repairs
As mentioned on the thread at Amiga.org earlier, all CyberStorm boards sent in under warranty will be replaced by new ones. The production of these is partly done, the PCB's are there with all lower part components fitted. The problem currently is the lack of availability of the right 68K sockets. The ones that were originally used for the Phase5 and later DCE productions were specially made for Phase5 and are no longer being manufactured. However, there are several investigations ongoing at other manufacturers to adapt existing (and available) connectors to be fitted to the CyberStorm PCB's. Once this is solved, the production will be completed and all involved will receive new CyberStorm cards under warranty.
 
Non-Warranty Repairs
All non-warranty repair customers should have had a price quote from me. The repairs that could be done have been completed and all cards have been sent back or will be sent back in the next week. There are also repairs that are pending awaiting CPU sockets (see above).
 
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Non-Repairable Items
Repairs that could not be done have also been sent back or will be next week. Several cards have been sent back by DCE already, others will be returned by me from Rotterdam next week
 
Other Factors
During investigating the whole repairs issue, several disturbing things have come to my attention. There are cases of repairs not being done because they have been submitted through a reseller that has had outstanding invoices for three years, and also cases where repairs were done and sent back to a reseller, who then sold them as new products. I will not disclose specific information but just wanted to state this in DCE's defence, they're not always the one to blame...
 
Genesi Gesture
As a gesture from Genesi, there will be a new release of MorphOS for 'classic Amiga' PowerPC cards available for free. The planned release is at the end of this year.

DCE <> GENESI
Several people have opted thier concern in the Amiga.org thread about possible future repairs at DCE for Genesi products. First of all, please consider that the Amiga repairs are a special situation and it is not common for repairs to take this long, not even for DCE. Furthermore, anyone buying a PegasosII is dealing with Genesi, not with DCE. If there is a case where a Genesi product needs repair or replacement, Genesi will see to it that it happens the right way and in a decent timeframe. For reference see our history with the mainboard exchanges for April and April2 fixed boards. These were made at DCE too! :-)
 
Preliminary Conclusion
Apart from the wait for the right 68K sockets, most issues are either done or will be in the next week. There are however still some unallocated cards at DCE. Anyone that also thinks they have an outstanding repair at DCE and has not been in contact with me yet, please do so NOW, as we are working towards concluding the whole operation and at some point soon we will not take on any more investigations.
If you have sent in your repair to a reseller be sure to mention which one explicitely.

Contact - rvanherk@nl.genesi.lu

Regards,

Ron van Herk
Genesi
 

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2003, 05:33:46 PM »
A good job all around for this.

One puzzling thought, however, remains.  Namely, is there a possibility of new PPC cards for the classic hardware?
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2003, 05:36:47 PM »
MorphOS for my Blizzard? that sounds nice ;)

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2003, 05:38:06 PM »
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One puzzling thought, however, remains. Namely, is there a possibility of new PPC cards for the classic hardware?


Not from DCE...

Cheers,
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2003, 05:43:30 PM »
@bloodline

I'd say the same thing, but I sold off my Blizzard awhile ago.  I prefer my Pegasos now anyways.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2003, 05:47:05 PM »
If you have amiga,s that need repair you should send them here http://www.amiga.fr/

most people seem to recomend them for fast and polite service.
I once had an amigaone xe but sold it .

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2003, 05:50:24 PM »
There's something about this announcement that reminds me of the Berlin Wall coming down.
 

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2003, 06:03:57 PM »
I think it would be a shame if these cards are not build anymore. I hope these things will continue to be made in the future.

I now have 3 BlizzardPPC cards.
BlizzardPPC powered!!
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2003, 06:31:50 PM »
Just out of curiosity, is there some reoccuring theme as to what causes these things to break down? Just wondering because it seems like the Cyberstorm cards have problems but the BlizzardPPC cards don't.
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2003, 07:26:38 PM »
KennyR: Everythign has to come to an end someday.. Those PPC
boards for Am1200/A4000 are years old technology and are no longer
feasible to make/maintain. And they are the only ones ever made for
Amiga, no other ever accomplished the same.

And nowdays.. those peope who did original designs have new plans and
new products to make.
 

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2003, 08:29:57 PM »
While new PPC boards for Classic Amigas would be rather cute, in my eyes, it does seem more like a labour of love-style venture (like the Coldfire accelerators) than a real business venture.

Considering how much a new PowerPC board would cost these days - the original phase5 boards cost well in excess of £600 when brand new. Even with lowered costs of parts, without the m68k, without scsi, even without any special peripherals (USB, ATA), I doubt you could find a way to make a board that complex - and remind yourself this is just a PPC and a DIMM socket - for very cheap.

If you do look at the costs in a realistic way you will see that the best solution is...




.. by far ..




.. and by no mistake ..





.. buy a Pegasos!

For $299 you can get a 600MHz "Amiga", and run most of your old software over it. It'll be 10 times the performance of any accelerator hack, and you get goodies like ATA100, USB, Firewire, commodity RAM support (no more ZIPs and SIMMs - DDR is here, baby!), networking, and the ability to use AGP graphics cards (yay!)

Keep your old Amiga to the side to run all those old games on. Hell - pass the composite video cable into your Radeon AIW, and play them on your MorphOS desktop (I hope that's implemented now I said that ;)
 

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2003, 08:33:13 PM »
Neko!!! your avitar looks just like you ;-)

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2003, 08:40:32 PM »
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For $299 you can get a 600MHz "Amiga


But thats the point its not an amiga. :-?
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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2003, 08:50:02 PM »
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Keep your old Amiga to the side to run all those old games on. Hell - pass the composite video cable into your Radeon AIW, and play them on your MorphOS desktop (I hope that's implemented now I said that ;)


 :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o  :-o

 :-)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

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Re: Report on DCE Repairs
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2003, 08:51:08 PM »
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But thats the point its not an amiga.

That's why he wrote "Amiga"  :-P ;-)
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)