Statement From Bill McEwen on Thendic-Amiga

[Kees]

This site isn't Amiga.org anymore.
I'm here since i have internet, this was a fantastic website, but now it is a ****

Saying that isn't going to help change that .. or is it ?

[DaveP]

I agree.

You have a tough job on your hand right now Kees. Good luck!  :-)

[Paul_Gadd]

Every single company in this waste of time community are amateurs and are actling like a bunch of clowns.

FFS you wankers are finally finishing off the Amiga.

[Jules]

It's been a very long time since I installed 3.9, but doesn't the EULA appear during instalion time? If memory serves me correctly, at the point of installation there is a long agreement/disclaimer that each user has to agree to before the installation process continues. If my memory isn't playing tricks, I recall something like the same type of agreement that appears on most PC software (the type that virtually nobody bothers to read).

[Vincent]

Seeing as my post got deleted as it was in the middle of the thread I'll just say one more thing.

All this is brought up from ann.lu by bbrv.  This is the second time a comment has been made there by bbrv and treated like a news item.  Now the official word is that it's still in court.

How can people trust bbrv when they make false statements like that?

{this section was edited by me - I was not asked to edit this, but I was given good reason by a very *kind* pm}

I don't care if I get warned about this being a flame post or anything.  I'm kinda giving up on this site anyway.  Yet again I'm thinking about not coming back.  The members and moderators are just as bad as each other when this crap keeps getting brought up (espesh when bbrv's the spreader).

[DaveP]

Jules

You are correct, I am searching for the EULA right now on the install CD as a plain text file.

[Eer0]

Who what is bbrv ?! and why is he/she/it claiming to have the rights to the name Amiga ?!
"confused"  :-?

[Terminills]

They are in the OS-VERSION3.9\LICENSE folder.  Both an english and german version.


My favorite section personally is..
"THE AMIGA SOFTWARE IS NOT INTENDED FOR USE IN THE OPERATION
OF NUCLEAR FACILITIES, AIRCRAFT NAVIGATION, COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS, OR AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL MACHINES IN WHICH CASE THE FAILURE OF THE AMIGA SOFTWARE COULD LEAD TO DEATH, PERSONAL INJURY, OR SEVERE PHYSICAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE. "

[hnl_dk]

@ Eer0

bbrv: Bill Buck is no. 2 @ Genesi ... Raquel Velasco is no. 1 @ Genesi

[DaveP]

BBRV is Bill Buck and Raquel Velasco ( I think I got that right ) who are two pretty nice people that run Genesi, formerly Thendic who had a contract with Amiga Inc. to port AmigaDE onto WINCE for the SmartBoy product.

Thendic from what I can see was formerly involved in security products, for airports and the like and famously ran the "muscle" at French airports - or something.

You can use Google to look those up to see the current status of all three ;-)

The contract, according to hearsay, included a clause that stipulated that Thendic had the right to request further platforms for consideration.

Thendic somehow turned into Genesi and merged with BPlan to market their Pegasos and MorphOS product ( a competitor to Amiga ).

Then Genesi requested, using that contract clause, a port of AmigaDE onto Pegasos. This was refused and it goes to court in November 2003.

Dave.

[LordOfCommunity]

Kees, he's right. Wayne and Redrumloa have become puppets of Genesi. More and more persons comments and news not in favour of Genesi get moderated or removed or turn in another but "Genesi is god, AmigaInc is the devil" thread. It all started with the "Let's talk in privat and send me an email" tactics of Thendic. Bill Buck has read a good management book and focused on strategics persons and websites using the" if you're with us we'll offer you a job or Pegasos" tactic.Sites and persons who we're against them and "in favour of AmigaOS4" we're publically attacked an abused by the followers. I can even remember several comments from MorphOS supporters that Amiga.org was ####!! Because of all the  BAFS!!"

People on IRC are talking about Amiga.org and they're not happy with recent "change".  Wayne and Redrumloa should realize that you can't force amiga users to become MorphOS minded. The amiga community is mature enough (no childish comments please) to make their own decision based on what they see as the next AmigaOS. Banning Ray won't help either Wayne. Lot's of people say nasty things on Amiga.org. You could have mailed hij privatly to give him a warning that another comment like that will result in a ban, but something says me that you didn't and actually enjoyed banning an AmigaInc employee.

MorphOS is MorphOS, Genesi = Genesi, I can't recognize any Amiga in that apart from being API COMPATIBLE. Like WINE is API compatible to Windows. So if you really like the amiga then you should hand over your site to Kees. Not just add another webmaster.

Kees is the only moderator left on amiga.org which makes this site still enjoyable.

Maybe you should start MorphOS.org, Genesi.org or Pegasos.org, to name a view, Wayne?

--Edit Kees made me clear that there WAS contact with Ray before he was banned, so I stand corrected

[Eer0]

:-?
Oh.. seems to me they are a bit unproffesional  to make such statements that they have on a site like this.

[Eer0]

@DaveP thanks it seems somewhat clearer now.

[markbond]

DaveP,

I would point out that with regards this:

There are several points of entry into xoops.

First is the database tables, where the password can be read and deciphered quite easily. This requires someone with database read rights at the least on user tables.

Xoops stores md5 encrypted versions of the password, so to break this would meaning running automated comparisons until you hit the combination that provides the correct encrypted format.

Mark

[redrumloa]

@Mikey_C

Nice, more attacks and BS. i am not alienating anyone except people with specific agendas against this site.

As for me being on the blue side of the fence? Think whatever you want. You keep stating how much you want to leave like a broken record, it's tiresome. If this site is so terrible no one is going to stop you leaving. OTOH i am not going to put up with your constant 'A-Org sucks" tirades.

[Giovanni]

Kees is the only moderator left on amiga.org which makes this site still enjoyable.

I think Kees does a good job here.

@Kees:

You are right, only claiming that Amiga.org is biased, won't change anything. I really believe that you are trying your best to keep this site in the middle.