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New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« on: May 22, 2003, 12:01:10 PM »
As there is no factual information I have created two polls to find out just what the community thinks.
you can find the polls here.




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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2003, 01:05:27 PM »
IMHO.. it's too early to ask. After OS4 is running nicely on Aone, then it'll become more valid question.
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2003, 01:18:47 PM »
Yes, I do.

I will pay as much as a boxed copy of Windows XP Pro costs for it too.
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2003, 01:46:12 PM »
Don't care, since I don't want a Pegasos any more than I want an AmigaOne. Any other options?
Bill Hoggett
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2003, 02:07:04 PM »
What was your purpose with these polls? And what do you think, how will it succeed?

If you wanted to know, if current Pegasos owners want OS4 on their machines, then you will fail. I presume a serious degree of "Do you want OS4 on pegasos?" NO answers will come from actual AmigaONE owners who have emotional bias towards the Pegasos as a platform.

The same goes, in an even higher degree for your question "What do you think should happen to get OS4 on Pegasos?". Do you think AmigaONE owners will self restraing themselves and not vote "Genesi Should obtain AmigaOne certification as it is" but "Amiga Inc. should drop the dongle and\or relax the lisencing fees"?

Another issue, someone mentioned " If the peg2 comes out, then consider it if the manufacturer is willing to put in the proper support infrastructure to pass the licence requirements."

Excuse me, what are the licence requirements? We have absolutely no knowledge about it, so we cannot judge about it. Those which were publicly available ages ago were such, that not even the current AmigaONE matches the requirements.

The third problem, you'd like us to decide on something which we know very little about. I'll definitely wait the release, or at least a decent demo of OS4 with my answer. (As I have a blizzppc and a pegasos too, I can wait)

The fourth problem is, why can't the poll be on Amiga.org?
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2003, 02:10:18 PM »
Sure there's another option - use a PC only and forget AmigaOS ever existed. But I guess you do already, Bill. Your loss.
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2003, 02:10:54 PM »
@Warface

You are right that you will not see an accurate poll when it is hosted on Amiga Inc's website.  :crazy:
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2003, 02:14:28 PM »
Useless poll
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2003, 02:41:41 PM »
@ikir
100% aggreed !

I have said it long ago, and now I will do it again:

Holding the finger into AInc&Hype's faces over the
licence-issue was the smartest thing Genesi could do.


And for those whining "but there are only 600
Peg-owners, I also got something to say:

What does a "new" plattform need to succed ?

Zealots who take the Amiga as a religion (literally) ?

Or enthausatic bedroom-coders ?

No I don't think that all A1-owners are like that,
but a great portion of the vocal part IS.

And there are atleast 100 bedroom-coders who own a Peg.

Also have a look at the current RAM-prices, and you will
find out SDR allready costs more than DDR and it ain't
hard to guess how it will look in 1 or 2 years, when
(if) OS4/MOS have evolved enough to become more "mainstream".

Selling a SDR-based mobo in 2002 was hard, in 2003 it
needs fanatics, and in 2004 it will be a joke.

So what option will Hyperion have to get their OS
on a really modern HW ?

TeronXX ? Forget it, MAI haven't even finished
the Sa-design, how long till the P will be really
ready for mass-production (if ever) ?

Apple ? Yeah, sure nice HW, but also 100% not cooperative.

Peg2 ? Oh no no no, they are evil, evil, evil ....  :-P

I also don't see why anybody should licence OS4 for
an STB or similar, as these costumers either won't
a full package (HW+SW) or full controll over the OS.

So :

Useless poll  ;-)
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2003, 02:56:14 PM »
>>what is the purpose of these polls?

to visit os.amiga.com, I'm sure.
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2003, 02:59:33 PM »
Another matter, if it wasn't your, but - let's say - Amiga Inc's or Hyperion's poll on how many would like to see OS4 on the Pegasos I'd vote in an instant with YES. But it's not the case.

(Or Genesi's "How many are out there wanting to cover the extra cost the licencing means for Genesi AND buying OS4 in addition" to which my answer is a definite NO)
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2003, 03:05:39 PM »
There should be some sort of agreement that will get morph os and os 4 on both hardware platforms  so people can make there own choice. :-)
I once had an amigaone xe but sold it .

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2003, 03:05:59 PM »
@red:
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You are right that you will not see an accurate poll when it is hosted on Amiga Inc's website.


Or any other website, for that matter.

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2003, 03:10:31 PM »
The only accurate poll on this would need to
be held on the Beta2-mailinglist .....
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: New Poll: Do you want OS4 on Pegasos
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2003, 03:13:40 PM »
I know that it's strict business secret, but may we know what were the licensing terms Eyetech could and Genesi couldn't accept? It's told, that it's the same for everyone. I'm just curious, but not expecting an answer. :-)

And what are the expectations a board must conform to in order to be called AmigaONE? Were those changed as AmigaONE is an AmigaONE, despite that it has neither DE nor OS4?