Fleecy Moss Q&A Week 4

[Hooligan_DCS]

@all
Set up a Q&A session with someone more interesting than
fleecy if you are so disturbed by him answering ten
bloody questions a week. Or if you really want his input,
but feel amigaworld is only feeding him 'nice' questions,
set up a Q&A session of your own, right here on amiga.org
(or elsewhere). I would read it, most definately. It's my
hobby (note the non-deadly-serious implication) to
keep an eye on the small Amiga world, after all.

How about interviewing Ron Jeremy? Who would want to miss THAT!

[Warface]

Well, I think it's all right as a news item. I can live with it once a week.

And waiting for the day, when some more serious questions will be answered...

[JamesR]

I have to agree with Wayne; there wasn't any real information in Fleecy's (God I hate that name) post. He's an arrogant goon spewing the same stuff we heard two years ago.

Further, Amiga Inc. should NOT be trying to influence which Amiga news sites are viewed and which aren't, and if they are, they're A) wasting their time and B) not busy enough getting a damned Amiga product out.

Honestly, I hope Amiga OS 4.0 sees the light of day soon; I'm excited about that product with the Amiga One. But I'm sick to death of hearing NOTHING from Amiga Inc. except the same nonsense. If they become a profitable, decent-sized company we hopefully won't have to deal with this political haggling in our tiny community anymore, we can then move on to political haggling with a much bigger community. I can live with having an Amiga Inc. that's annoying as long as they're successful (and don't do stupid things like Commodore and Apple), but so far they've been successful in just about nothing, except giving some guidance, reference designs, and desired featuresets to OTHER companies to do for them. Amiga Anywhere is certainly not a success by any stretch of the imagination yet.

Honestly, Amiga.org's going to be fine one way or another, no matter what Fluffy Fleecy says. I still believe we are the most viewed Amiga news site, and I don't think that will change no matter how many useless Q and A sessions he posts at other sites. I remember back when AO was in AI's "good graces" and that certainly didn't have any effect on us, either.

[System]

You accuse them of "splitting the community", be careful not to take part in splitting it. Rather demonstrate that you're not interested in playing silly games like that.

I need to convey a message, and I need it to be absolutely clear.  I have NOTHING against either AmigaWorld.net or it's Webmaster, DaveyD.  Davey and I seem to get along just fine, despite pressure by a couple of AW's members to play "site versus site" politics to try and drive their barely hidden agendas.

It's up to your readers to decide that, don't you think so?

Yes.... and No....  If this were real news, with real answers I would be amongst the first to post it.  

Fleecy "fluffing" the community isn't interesting and only serves to divide the community even more.  

Seriously.  Read all the prepared questions, read all the evasions, vague answers, and 1/2 truths given by Fleecy over the last 4 weeks and tell me it actually has a purpose.  

I am not suggesting that it be precluded from the site, simply that it should be moved to the forums, as -- in the opinions of the staff -- it is not "news".

[SlimJim]

Honestly, Amiga.org's going to be fine one way or another, no matter what Fluffy Fleecy says. I still believe we are the most viewed Amiga news site, and I don't think that will change no matter how many useless Q and A sessions he posts at other sites. I remember back when AO was in AI's "good graces" and that certainly didn't have any effect on us, either.

 
Are you saying that you are feeling betrayed somehow
that fleecy is posting his answers to amigaworld.net and
not to amiga.org? Do you think he would have refused had
you thought of this Q&A thing first?
 
As it is,  it's quite obvious the staff of amiga.org care little
about what AInc has to say. I don't see why
another site's staff thinking this MIGHT be interesting
after all, is anything to be upset about. And like the
interviews conducted by other sites, it's a happening
some in the community might be interested in hearing
about. At least, this is certainly nothing to blame AInc for
at least (for once)?
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SlimJim

[Tomas]

There hasnt been much "real" news lately anyways.... So i cant see why this news item hurts... Its better than nothing at all............

[zee4]

If the CTO was doing an out-of-the-blue-moon Q&A session, it would be news. Rather instead, it's a weekly occurance. No longer news, it's instead something akin to a report.

Thank you, Mr. Clinton  

[System]

Are you saying that you are feeling betrayed somehow that fleecy is posting his answers to amigaworld.net and not to amiga.org?

To jump in from my own perspective, not at all.  If Fleecy actually had something to say, that's one thing.  You are discounting the FACT that the only reason he is saying ANYTHING right now is that he wanted to work with Mike Bouma/Luca Diana/(ACCM?) to try and undermine Amiga.org and snag it's more zealotous members for their own use.  I say "use" because from first-hand experience, that is the ONLY thing that Amiga Inc wants from any member of this community.  Mike Bouma and others are simply to naive to understand that fact yet.

Fleecy, in fact, has said nothing interesting that we have not heard repeatedly for the past 3 years.  

-- They are broke.  We get it.
-- It's everyone's fault but theirs.  We don't believe it, but we got it.
-- They have nothing to do with AmigaOS.  Got it.
-- They have nothing to do with AmigaOne. Got it.
-- They have no real plans for software support. Got it.
-- They have no real plans for selling the desktop outside the community.  Got it.
-- Fleecy knows a lot of big buzz words.  Got it.

As such, I admit that I'm peeved that ANYONE is listening to what Fleecy has to say about ANYTHING except *possibly* DE/AA.  What DE/AA has to do with the Amiga platform, and why it even remotely interests classic Amiga users, I cannot fathom.

I didn't even suggest that it shouldn't be covered here, but it is much more applicable as a forum post than a new item.

But that's just me. You'll note that it does not affect my standpoint on anything else at this site.  ALL ALTERNATIVES to the classic Amiga platform should be considered, as we are all classic Amiga platform users.

[zee4]

So what? You don't have to censor anything to protect the popularity of your site, the quality of your site speaks for itself.

Good point. Now censor is a bit stong, Wayne's just talking about not calling it news, not banning anything.

What I do agree with is: if you don't like it, don't read it, skip it, read some of the other dozen stories on Amiga.org

Obviously some people have zero faith left in Amiga (Inc.), but I say lets keep this in the news for the entertainment value alone.

Myself, I love this Monday-morning freak-out, it's probably healthy for us nerds to get this worked up over nothing.

If you want to see angry, just wait till OS4 ships.

"but..but...it doesn't come with stickers! Aggggh!"

Zoltan

[zee4]

Err, when *I* look at the news items, ALL of them look like some sort of advertising regardless of how much or how little content they contain.

Right on!

Face it, Fleecy's 10 questions are about as exciting as things get in the land of Amiga these days.

[zee4]

Are you saying that you are feeling betrayed somehow that fleecy is posting his answers to amigaworld.net

So what was the split over anyways?

[SlimJim]

You are discounting the FACT that the only reason he is saying ANYTHING right now is that he wanted to work with Mike Bouma/Luca Diana/(ACCM?) to try and undermine Amiga.org and snag it's more zealotous members for their own use.

 
I'm sorry, but I don't know this "FACT". In fact, this is the
first time I have heard of this. But if this is how you
regard the situation, I can understand your aversity.
Indeed, if this is really  the reason for the questions to be
answered (as opposed to the more obvious reason that
AW simply asked fleecy first), it would be bad (and
childish) indeed.
 
For now, I'll just apply the wisdom of Occam though...
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SlimJim

[System]

But if this is how you regard the situation, I can understand your aversity.

This isn't how I regard this situation.  This is what copies of e-mails and private messages I have received have marked out in detail.  No.  I will not share the e-mails.  You have "known" me long enough to make a determination of the truth here.

This started long before the "I'm leaving" thread and culminated when I took money from Genesi for a banner (no more, no less) and moved Amiga.org to my own server.   Bouma, Luca Diana, and Fleecy used that moment to start spreading pure lies and bullshit aimed specifically at promoting their own agendas.  They continue to this day.

[SlimJim]

It saddens me to hear this, Wayne.
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SlimJim

[System]

yeah this is not news... more nonsense from a nonsense company... they need to deliver some T-Shirts before they do anything else... taking peoples money and not giving product is far from ideal.

[Alkemyst]

Poster: mips_proc Date: 2003/4/7 21:30:40

yeah this is not news... more nonsense from a nonsense company... they need to deliver some T-Shirts before they do anything else... taking peoples money and not giving product is far from ideal.

Is that all that matters to you is a T-Shirt.
So ppl send Amiga.inc £50 & get a T-shirt & that should make you happy.

send me £50 & ill get you a T-shirt seeing thats all you want for £50

This should be in forum as the Q&A was not at Amiga.org. so ppl can talk about the questions & the replys with out name calling or flamming.

You do you think name calling & flamming is a good thing.
 
 
@Wayne

Seeing as you dont like this item & its not following your rules of NEWS & is going way off topic why dont you lock it or delete it.

As you your self are breaking your own rules your self with your comments on this thread.