Fleecy Moss Q&A Week 4

[ikir]

Fleecy Moss (Amiga Inc. CTO) replies to another 10 basic questions from amiga users.  

Week 4

[bhoggett]

Yawn. Another news item that contains no news.

For gawdssake, if you insist that Fleecy's answers are news every week, please reproduce them here.

Just posting a link to another site should be against the amiga.org rules dammit. It's blatant advertising.

What is so hard to understand about the requirement that a news item must contain news?

I'll go as far as to suggest this item should now be removed from the news section and placed into one of the forums.

[cyka_delik]

It contains news in the form of question answers.

[Wilse]

@Bill,

Yawn. Another news item that contains no news.

Yawn. Another whinge from Bill that contains no substance but perhaps a hint of bitterness. ;-)

For gawdssake, if you insist that Fleecy's answers are news every week, please reproduce them here.

I'd have no problem with that. In fact, I think that would be a good thing and would welcome it.

Just posting a link to another site should be against the amiga.org rules dammit. It's blatant advertising.

Wouldn't this logic dictate that all other links be removed? Blatant advertising, after all.  ;-)  

What is so hard to understand about the requirement that a news item must contain news?

What is so hard to understand about the fact that some of the answers *are* considered news. You know, something that we were not previously aware of?

dictionary.com definition number 2:

 2. New information of any kind. :roll:

I'll go as far as to suggest this item should now be removed from the news section and placed into one of the forums.

I'll go as far as to suggest that it *really* looks as though you take this personally and ought to give it a rest. Constant whinging about this not being news makes you look childish.

[Darth_X]

From Fleecy's answer to question #10:

Fleecy: As I said before we are closely watching the Apple strategy with Safari. We have had contact with Real Networks and other providers of Internet technology but most provide the same answer. Show us a viable platform or show us a lot of money. Both are not available at the moment.

Exactly. It's April 2003 already and  it is time to show the world (developers at least) where development on AmigaOS4 is.

It is possible that a coder who started on an Amiga then moved to Windows Win32 might find it easier to port a web browser such as k-meleon to Amiga, instead of Safari.


Eyetech plan on using the AmigaONE Motherboard in a linux server. How this will benefit Hyperion or AmigaInc who need to get AmigaOS4 running on as many platforms as possible, I do not know.

[Loki1]

Eyetech plan on using the AmigaONE Motherboard in a linux server. How this will benefit Hyperion or AmigaInc who need to get AmigaOS4 running on as many platforms as possible, I do not know.

It will help by having increased sales of motherboards, which will allow further development and lower prices.

Not to mention that a good number of the people that might buy a board for Linux may be x-Amigans or know about Amiga and may want to try it.

Can't Hurt!

Loki :-D

[KennyR]

I know this is going to be a 50+ long thread, so I'm getting my word in before it happens! I'll keep it short and sweet:

Further away OS4 release =  less users it will have.
Further away than Jan 2004 = OS4 dead.
No amount of Q&A changes these facts.

Ok, that's me finished. Flame away.  :flame:

[redrumloa]

Yawn. Another whinge from Bill that contains no substance but perhaps a hint of bitterness.

I'm very full of bitterness and I admit it! But that doesn't change the fact I happen to agree with Mr Hogget:-)

Then again annoying or not, this news item isn't hurting anything. Well, except my brain cells which it is killing at an alarming rate :-x

[dammy]

Is anyone else getting sick of reading all this free advertising that is being done for that site (that should remain nameless)?  If this is going to be regular posting, it's high time they cough up the money and paid amiga.org's pervailing advertising rates.  

Dammy

[zee4]

I know this is going to be a 50+ long thread, so I'm getting my word in before it happens! I'll keep it short and sweet:

Good points. I just read the Q/A myself and there's nothing really surprising.

The low-cost AmigaOne? Sounds like what Allen was talking about at that show 2 weeks back.

About PPC in general- ever wonder why you can get a 'x86 Linux box for under $200 U.S.- it's got to do with volumn (ok, and no Win-tax either), if we want to get cheaper AmigaOnes, selling more PPC Linux boxes is a good first step. Seriously, Apple sort of has its nitch, while Linux is a growing market, so latching onto this with a PPC Linux server is a smart move. It's going to benifit all of us- Linux-heads and Amiga nuts alike.

OS5?
Well I think Fleecy was right- it's a fair ways off, we're all still waiting for OS4.

AmigaDE?
Well, I don't he said anything that isn't known to be true by developers or the general community.

Real Audio, etc. ?
I'd like to see a player in OS4 too, but considering money issues, I doubt they are in the position to have Real licence the RealPlayer. On the other hand, maybe we should be backing something like icecast untill that comes about.
Bear in mind that even on GNU/Linux, support for RealAudio is skimpy (an unsupported player) and things like DVD playback are also in legal limbo.

All in all, another worthwhile read, keep posting them Amiga.org!

Zoltan
www.ZEE4.com

[MarkTime]

@Wilse,


I think everyone should just get used to repetitive answers.
That is the strategy of Amiga, Inc., just to repeat themselves
constantly.  So the critics are then forced to repeat themselves as well.

50 repetitive answers about various questions doesn't mean that Amiga, Inc.
has delivered the t-shirts.  It doesn't mean that they have
explained why they lied in the past.  It doesn't mean OS 4 is now
shipping.

What is the point?  They gave answers before, they didn't mean anything.

The point is, there is a small minority of Amiga users that want information at all costs, even if the cost is integrity.  In other words, they want information, even if that information is speculative..a mere guess...even if that information is unture...even if that information causes other people to make bad purchasing decisions...or to lose $100, or $50 dollars, etc....

They are a little cult, and they are willing to lose some money, and more importantly, they are willing to encourage others to lose money...and the most astonishing thing, is since Amiga Inc. has so far failed to deliver much of anything, they have taken this apparant problem and solved it, with the amazing proposition, that it is OK, if Amiga, Inc. fails to deliver anything....as long as they keep communicating.

[dammy]

Poster: redrumloa Date: 2003/4/7 10:35:33

Then again annoying or not, this news item isn't hurting anything. Well, except my brain cells which it is killing at an alarming rate

This isn't "news", it's free advertising.  It would be one thing if there was once a blue moon, but this is blatant advertising of another site.  They are taking advantage of Amiga.org's posting policy.  IMO, if they are going to continue this behavior, they need to be paying Amiga.org for their use of this web site to advertise their own.

Dammy

[Paul_Gadd]

Who cares what Fleecy says, same old talk with no action.

The thread of this on Ann is getting juicy  :-)

[System]

@dammy,

I agree.  No more of them will be posted as news.  

@everyone else

I see absolutely no real answers to anything here.  This is just "Fleecy's" feeble attempt at destroying Amiga.org's popularity by spewing incredibly vague "answers" on another site to products that Amiga Inc has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with.  

At least I know he'll have a safe future as 1-900-mr.-cleo once Amiga Inc admits they're dead-ended and out of money.  

Then again, having heard substantial rumors lately of bank accounts closed and other interesting oddities, maybe they already have and news simply hasn't reached "Fleecy".

For the record, if you MUST post these in the future, please do it as a Forum post where it is most appropriate.  Use the topic title "Fleecy's Fluff, week number #" if you will.

Wayne Hunt
Amiga.org

[zee4]

This isn't "news", it's free advertising.

I disagree. If a site called "Amiga.org" doesn't cover an interview (and yes, I know the questions are picked, but that's quite common in news now, unfortunately) with CTO of Amiga, well what is news then?

I like amiga.org for the fact that it covers a lot of news.  Heck, I've got limited interest in BeOS, MorphOS or any of the others, but if you don't want to read it, do what I do: skip it.

Zoltan
www.ZEE4.com