Amiga.org welcomes Elbox as an advertiser.

[redrumloa]

@Andreas_Nyback

No one is being censored. Amiga.org is not "bought". Amiga.org does not have a "stance on Elbox". Simply said this news item is that Elbox is a paid advertiser. This in and of itself is good news to ANYONE who finds Amiga.org useful. Amiga.org is a community website and any company who puts it's advertising dollars here contributing to the long term health of this site and are giving a boost to the community as a whole. I am not saying that was the motive, I'm sure their motive is to generate revenue through advertising. I hope it works out well for all parties involved.

As for censorship, before you go that route and critise not only Wayne, but myself and every other registered A-Org user, check the archives on this site. You will see plenty of heating discussions about Elbox. Nothing has ever been censored, nor will it be. You just don't kick someone in the teeth when they do something positive.

[Stom]

Madgun68 wrote:


Personally, I've used the drivers mentioned with my Amiga for the past year, and I've not once had a problem with this or heard of it happening to anyone else. I wouldn't doubt that the drivers for my Powerflyer have/had similar code. If this was such a serious issue, considering how many times I've crashed the machine with my stupid programming tricks, you'd think I'd have seen it at least once.


I have got to agree one hundred percent with what you wrote there and in the points thereafter. Not once since 9th October 2000 have I had driver problems with the Mediator hardware/software they have shipped.

The main point of this thread is to welcome Elbox as a advertiser for the site and I wholeheartedly do so, cheers Elbox! :-D

[Nick]

Sorry about my rambling before.

Thanks Elbox. We need this.

[MarkTime]

@Marktime

hmmmm I must have worded myself poorly, because your response is basically what I suspected, and was trying to outline, without making unneeded guesses... I wanted JoannaK to see that under the right circumstances, Genesi would advertise here.

Though I had no insider knowledge, I just speculated that to be true, since they advertise everywhere on Amiga websites...

Anyway, you have cleared all that up, and we all understand the situation clearly.

I agree, noone is the bad guys, with Amiga, Inc. providing such great assistance, and Genesi wanting to provide their own.

Its just a standard conflict of interest, which is typical in business.  Now....with that said, since Amiga, Inc. doesn't use the banner space you would provide them, they should go directly to Genesi and offer to sell their banner space.  Why?  Just because I think it would be funny, thats why!

That would be the most interesting conflict of interest...would Genesi write Amiga, Inc. a check?

[System]

@marktime

Sorry if I misunderstood.  Just wanted to clarify.  Don't know what Genesi has to do with Elbox though, so this thread has gone astray.

[amigamad]

Thats great news one of a few good hardware manafacturers left for the amiga and one of the best good line of products as well when i sent an email to find out what an expansion for a cdtv they had advertised was and if it was available they emailed me back within 2 days this has to be good and they update their site often which is something eyetech should do more.I have thought of getting their expansion the mediator 1200sx for my old a1200 tower but at the moment i have a1 on order and i have been thinking of putting a1200 in old apple mac case i have and this case is slimline.if i keep my a1200 in its tower with its ppc acelerator then i might think of getting mediator 1200sx.I have three a1200s so i could put another one in mac case and buy a cheap 040 for it this sounds like the ideal way to me. :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

[dammy]

oster: Wayne Date: 2003/1/8 16:45:30

Ok, how would your Mama put this, since you have no concept of what I am talking about.....

Do not come into my house insulting my guests..

It is rude, and it is not welcomed here. They are supporting this site and.... by the way.... one of the only reasons left why you have a site to come and bitch at.

I maybe behind the power curve on (won't be the first nor the last time either) this subject, but are you no longer being hosted on Amiga Inc's server?

Dammy

[ikir]

Welcome Elbox!

We are glad!!!!! I'm a mediator user ;-)

PS: don't care about Paul_Gadd. he is a little stupid

[Marky_D_Sahd]

Don't mind the news post, Wayne.  You flick that switch on the wall and you're going to attract a few moths.  But you still enlighten the place.
You did more good for ElBox with the news item, I think, than could be undone by a few trolls.
Welcome, Elbox.  Thanks for your support.

[Targhan]

I don't blindly follow nor trash Elbox.  I have a Mediator, and it has worked flawlessly for almost 2 years now.  I understand the concern about the RDB code, but I have not seen a single user affected by such a practice.  

With that said, Elbox has not only provided excellent service after the sale--they've tried to support the community.  Now, they have extended their hand to Amiga.org.  I just can't understand how anyone could complain about this. :-?

[dammy]

Poster: Marky_D_Sahd Date: 2003/1/9 19:30:55

Don't mind the news post, Wayne. You flick that switch on the wall and you're going to attract a few moths. But you still enlighten the place.
You did more good for ElBox with the news item, I think, than could be undone by a few trolls.

I don't see the trolls actually in this thread.  I am questioning Wayne's comments about having to generate funds for Amiga.org.  Last thing I've been reading is Amiga.org is still being hosted by Amiga Inc.  If Wayne is having to pay for the bandwidth used, then it's time, IMO, to go out on his own so he can add Genesi as a sponsor.  I have a feeling that type of money should be more then enough to cover the additional costs of a commercial host account for Amiga.org.

Now if he's attempting to generate enough startup costs associated with going to a new host, I would rather have pony up $10 via PayPal for a year's worth of posting rights and not have Amiga.org even associated with the likes of ElBox.  I don't plan to buy, ever, any of their products so it's not that big of a deal to me personally.  If it was, I would be boycotting Amiga.org.  I know I'm dissapointing Samface by not boycotting Amiga.org now, but that would take Wayne accepting $ from VMC/H&P.  

Dammy

[cyka_delik]

nice one we need all the support we can get. any i'm a med user with many happy times under my belt.

I don't like it when people start flaming an amiga dealer that supports a truely amazing amiga website

[Nick]

@Cyka_Delik

WOW I`m impressed that last post almost made you sound like you can actually speak and write English properly! :-D

[System]

I am questioning Wayne's comments about having to generate funds for Amiga.org.

Two questions:

First, how can you possibly be confused?  We are hosted by Amiga Inc on a spare machine that we pretty much had to beef up and get working.  Being hosted by Amiga Inc is fine and greatly appreciated, but I personally feel it is creating a bit of a conflict of interest in itself.  Remember, Amiga.org does not, nor has it ever belonged to Amiga Inc and they do not hold the only right to decide whether or not it continues.  You also have to consider the effort and interest of the people involved in running it.

Secondly.... nevermind.  I simply don't understand how you (or anyone) can object to my soliciting donations to help us keep running this site.  Hosting is not the only cost associated with amiga.org.  It never has been.

[Wilse]

@Dammy:

I am questioning Wayne's comments about having to generate funds for Amiga.org. Last thing I've been reading is Amiga.org is still being hosted by Amiga Inc. If Wayne is having to pay for the bandwidth used, then it's time, IMO, to go out on his own so he can add Genesi as a sponsor. I have a feeling that type of money should be more then enough to cover the additional costs of a commercial host account for Amiga.org.

There's a lot more to it than bandwidth costs. Wayne and the rest of the guys put a lot of their own time, money and effort into making this site the excellent site that it is.
I've never tried to run a website (wouldn't know how :-)) so I don't know for certain but it strikes me as rather obvious and I'm surprised you don't see it that way.

[Wilse]

Hi Wayne,

> I am questioning

Oops - you beat me to it.