Amiga now charter partner of Microsoft's Mobility Partner Advisory Council

[Elektro]

Happy new year!

 :-D

[System]

And which h/w would YOU like the new Amiga to have?

Like Amiga Inc promised us originally before denying they ever said it, I want to run AmigaOS/DE/AA/whatever on WHATEVER HARDWARE I HAPPEN TO HAVE AT THE TIME.

Don't give me the OS5 ####.  3 years into building OS4 and it's not done yet.  There is no OS5.  There won't be in my lifetime at this rate and I'm only 36.

[L8-X]

@Elektro

Hey thats bad taste!

 ;-)

[Paul_Gadd]

Merry Christmas Elektro  :-)

@Alkemyst

But you were quick to blame me.

You are to blame if you can not QUOTE a message, i assume you use email, everyone of the quoted messages by you look horrible even the one after the help I and L8-X gave you.

[System]

I tend to trust Fleecy and what he has told me untill now have been quite positive (and true).

Really?  P.T. Barnum comes to mind.

[Elektro]

Hey thats bad taste!

I sure am.

 :-D

[L8-X]

Like Amiga Inc promised us originally before denying they ever said it, I want to run AmigaOS/DE/AA/whatever on WHATEVER HARDWARE I HAPPEN TO HAVE AT THE TIME.

Don't give me the OS5 ####. 3 years into building OS4 and it's not done yet. There is no OS5. There won't be in my lifetime at this rate and I'm only 36.

They didn`t deny it, they had to admit that the investors wouldn`t agree to going in that direction.

 AMIGA MARKET=VERY LITTLE MONEY.

They have investors, these people give amiga.inc money, amiga.inc present them with a buisiness plan...investors say, "oh can`t give you xx millions of dollars for that, theres not enough market for a return on our investment", amiga inc change the plan and go for the pda market, investors like that and give more cash...amiga survive, make cash of their own then when the amiga market is sustainable, start making Amiga OS into something like they originally intended.

[System]

@L8-X

My sincere admiration for your level of patience.  I can't wait for 45 years for anything resembling a usable computer.

I already have Windows and it's more than usable for anything and everything I need to do.  Is it perfect?  No, but it's a damned site better than a machine which hasn't been updated in 7 years (and won't really be updated, just made faster for the next 10).

[Alkemyst]

[You are to blame if you can not QUOTE a message, i assume you use email, everyone of the quoted messages by you look horrible even the one after the help I and L8-X gave you.]


You asume to much.

My email prog does not  need manual quote.

I ignored your help cos it was imbeded with in an insult.
 
i posted typing before L8-X help came up.


& NO its not my fault that the quote button does not work with IB2.2

[L8-X]

@Wayne

From the press release

Craig Rairdin , president, Laridian, Inc., which specializes in publishing the Bible and other religious materials on handheld platforms.

By your reasoning anyone that works with M$ is owned by them, then they now own god! :-D  :-D  :-D

[L8-X]

@Wayne

You don`t know me, I have very little patience! ;-)

Its just that maybe I see things a little different from you and are giving A.inc/hyperion/eyetech a little slack.

I REALLY want to wake up tomorrow and have OS5...10ghz processors, gigs of memory and millions of fellow users to talk to on A.org. But I accept that it doesn`t happen overnight, these things happen VERY slowly in the amiga market.

To be honest I really can`t see it happening as we are all fighting with each other, destroying every hope of this reaching fruition.

And THIS is why I am feeling so sad :-(

[Elektro]

Everyone get some eggnog or whatever and chill.

 :-D  :-D

[BouncingAyatollah]

Surely it's simply about funding?

Who's gonna fund about 20-30 people to write a desktop OS opposed to Windows? Who's gonna fund 20-30 people to develop a new hardware platform opposed to x86?

They ARE being funded for DE however. Shame is they are ahead of the trend, as CDTV was, PDA and handheld games WILL take off massively, it is a matter of when. Bill M stated they have reference hardware designs that are amazing that they can't built due to financing and resources.

I know it sucks buts that's how it seems to me, a few million sales of DE stuff = a few million bucks. Maybe the M$ name might garner the robotic "Mmmmm M$ it must be good" response in sheeple?

[gary_c]

& NO its not my fault that the quote button does not work with IB2.2

The quote button doesn't enable quoting, it just automates it a little. You can get the same effect by copy and pasting the words you want to quote into the textbox and putting /[quote/] (without the slashes) in front of the quoted words and /[/unquote/] after. Oh, didn't somebody post that already? Sorry to be repetitive.

-- gary_c

[MarkTime]

I never could figure out the Atari scene, but I do know that there were Atari clones after Atari's demise...one was a rack mount Midi machine, based on a falcon, some machine called the hades/medusa with pci slots and 060/040 versions, and a low cost german 040 pci machine too.

All these claimed to have TOS licenses, that was Atari's OS, and they all failed nevertheless, though they were not sued out of existance.

The amiga market has been so much more resilient thanks to its more fanatic userbase who has always seemingly had more money to burn on this hobby as well.

But, nevertheless, this ship is sinking, and just like the TOS licensees never rebuilt a market post-atari, neither will hyperion or eyetech.  I honestly don't think eyetech even thinks they will, I truly believe they are in the retro computing, ala commodore one, market anyway.

Only Amiga had the cards, under gateway to rebuild something...first it was QNX, and by golly that might have worked...(Amiga OS XL), and then they switched too Linux...and that might have worked (Amithlon)...and then they switched to proprietary...and that might have worked (MorphOS)...then they finally switched to Hyperion OS 4.

I am stunned that a market this small was able to go four different directions, and all four directions ended up producing tangible results.  Sure they are all first efforts OS XL, Amithlon, MorphOS and OS 4....

but we actually went FOUR DIFFERENT directions when it was just imperative to make any decision and stick to it...anything, and stick to it, and then progress could have been made....

geez, what a bunch of incompetent clowns indeed, and now they are soaking in the acrimony they created and they can't figure it out.

Anyway, I agree, its almost all over now.

Happy new year.

[System]

The writing has been on the wall for a very long time, but many have just refused to see it, in desperate hopes that Amiga would actually become Amiga again.  All it has become, it seems, is MSAmiga, Inc with a bunch of boneheads at the helm!

Wayne is right for the most part.  The execs have only used the name and the users for further gain and to entice programmers in enough to get their sad little four games to market.  Everyone should have realized when AmigaAnywhere became M$ only there was a problem, heck probably even sooner than that!  Bill and crew have made one bonehead decision after another and everyone there have followed him like sheep going to a slaughter!

The one part I can't really agree with Wayne on is Gary Peake, as I have not heard much substance or truth out of his ramblings anytime!  Sorry Wayne, the things I have seen, heard and the responses I have gotten from pointed questions I have asked Gary just show his lack of truthfulness and respect towards others.  YMMV

The year goes out sadly for the Amiga loyalists, but hopefully with the thought that everyone at least knows the truth about Amiga Inc. now.

 :-(