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Offline SirLancelotDuLac

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Re: Microsoft now charter partner of Microsoft
« Reply #89 from previous page: December 27, 2002, 10:19:27 PM »
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Actually, from what I remember (perhaps Gary can help me out here), BeOS was abandon by Be just when it was really taking off for this stupid DC/IA/PDA/Cellphone/* Stinger OS since they were going to ride the wave. Remember that wave, the one DE is suppost to be riding on? If anyting, X86 increased the numbers of Be users and developers. Stinger, drove that entire group of users/developers away from BeOS.


Yes you are correct, one of the reasons BeOS died was because they gave up on the desktop OS for the PDA OS.  The MAIN reason that they did this was because they couldn't even GIVE THE OS AWAY to the OEMs.  If I remember correctly, Microsoft makes its biggest chunk of change on Windows from the OEMs, therefore, it would stand to reason that if BE could get some OEM action, they could have survived on the desktop.  They couldn't so they gave up the desktop for a market that wasn't so saturated by Microsoft.  I agree, though, if Be had been able to hold out longer, they might have actually started to gain some market share.  It was very apparent, however, by the sudden shift, that they couldn't afford to wait long enough for BeOS desktop to gain enough marketshare to start reporting a profit.

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I have no idea what you think is so magickal about PPC that will keep people around to use either OS4 or MOS. If anything, the short term gain by using PPC will be the boat anchor that drowns the OS in the long haul. It's great both OSs want to run with the big dogs, unfortunetly, they have this load stone called PPC that will grind them into the dirt.


Who said I thought PPC is magickal?  I just said x86 was a dead end at this time.  Look how long it took Be to even begin making inroads in x86, do you really think Amiga can afford to wait for Amiga OS to start taking hold on the x86 platform?  I don't think so.  If you are not going with x86, the best alternative, is PPC, IMO.  (Not to mention the fact that the current state of Amiga OS makes PPC the easiest and quickest to port to at this time)
 

Offline Methuselas

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Re: Amiga now charter partner of Microsoft's Mobility P
« Reply #90 on: December 28, 2002, 01:20:55 AM »
First of all, we must be calm. We must be passive. We have to wait. Regardless of what we want or whine or bitch about, we won't know anything until they tell us. End of story.

I like the PPC board, but there's nothing for it. Just a bunch of 'possible GUI' shots. There's no software. There's not list that says what WILL run. It's vapor. Air. Nothing tangible.  Wu3. When the OS comes, I will look and if I like and there is support, I will buy it.

Needless to say, Amiga Inc is shredding the Amiga Community. Some are MorphOS, Some are AOS4, some are die hard 68K. None are unified. None have a solution, just a stop-gab. There is nothing in the way of support for any of these, 'cos there is no money and the market is so small. Energy and effort is being wasted on nothing. Oh yeah, don't forget AROS.(which rocks, BTW) Regardless, all of these people have the same agenda, yet different ideas. AI, *SHOULD* have unified all of these people. After all, most were working for free, but a collabolation could have allowed an Amiga OS to run both 68K, PPC and X86 platforms. Why? 'Cos these coders were working in their spare time to recreate the OS that Amiga Inc had access too. Simply put, AI should have tried, but didn't.

I have no idea where AI is headed and I'm more here now for nostalgia. I don't run UAE anymore and Amithlon doesn't seem to want to run on my hardware anymore either.  I appreciate all that have purchased products like the AOne board, 'cos it kept my dream alive, but I'm not about to drop cash on OS4, when all I've seen is jst some screenshots, a list of what it can do, a board that people are having problems getting Linux to run on and a non-existant list of updated, compliant and tested software that doesn't consist of games ported by the OS designers that are 3+ years old.

I realize that things take time, but it has been 3 years and all I have seen is a lot of people get suckered. I love the AmigaOS, but it can't do what I need it to do today and quite frankly, OS4 doesn't seem to be anything tangible.

Regardless of how we feel, there is nothing there. We have to wait.

And wait we will; patient or otherwise, we will have to wait.

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Offline JoannaK

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Re: Amiga now charter partner of Microsoft's Mobility P
« Reply #91 on: December 28, 2002, 03:35:21 AM »
So we wait, rant and wait, wait and rant...
 

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Re: Amiga now charter partner of Microsoft's Mobility P
« Reply #92 on: December 28, 2002, 10:21:47 AM »
Yeah......CeBit is like a holy temple.......we should all go and pray outside it.  :-D
 

Offline Damion

Re: Amiga now charter partner of Microsoft's Mobility P
« Reply #93 on: December 28, 2002, 11:17:39 AM »
I'm not interested in supporting A-Inc at all
right now; there are way too many things wrong
with that picture for me even to think about
it. The idea of purchasing a 'protected'
solution from a company that has a hard time
managing coupons is laughable. Their misleading
press releases and relationship with Microsoft
don't exactly encourage me to sign up.

But hey - just more FUD. A-Inc hasn't actually
raised any concern by their very own conduct or
anything.