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Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« on: September 22, 2002, 12:58:25 AM »
PPCBoot by Hyperion is finished and handed out to existing (35-40 or so) betatesters - seen working for the first time on the event (I saw an ATI Radeon start screen among others...)



With this done, the rest of the developerboards (a couple of hundred)  can now be shipped to developers. Allow some two weeks to make sure the betatesters don't find any obvious problems.
 
PPCboot apparantly contains some pretty nifty features by the Frieden brothers (but I leave that report to those there with better technical knowledge (and memory!) than me).
 PPCBoot was made due to  an outside (in the meaning 'outside Amiga market')  contract, creating some nice revenue for Hyperion.
 
Apart from the boot process being cumbersome (since PPCBoot didn't exist), according to Alan no AOne hardware problems whatsoever have been reported by the betatesters since may this year.  
 
Alan Redhouse presented the AOne XE with replacable CPU and gave some very interesting numbers (which I leave to him to put on the web - he didn't want us to quote him on those). This card looks very promising anyways.
 
Due to plenty of requests from Amigans, Eyetech have changed their minds and will sell the AOne G3-SE before AOS4 is available  - but as such including the licence to later get the OS (after all it wouldn't be an AOne without the OS and the ROM).
 The G3-SE will hopefully ship before christmas, and the -XE slightly after christmas.
AOS4 for CyberstormPPC will come about around the same time, followed by the version for AOne probably after christmas (it should be noted that this was Alan's approximations - as I recall them - and not anything official from Hyperion).
 
AOS4 was presented by Gunne Steen of GGS-Data. He received a beta version from Hyperion for this particular presentation. It ran on his Cyberstorm PPC and he loaded modules on top of his OS3.9 installation, such as Intuition.library (giving new menus and configurability) and layers.library. He also showed some special effects modules like one that clipped all windows/pointers/graphics when they moved within an inch of the edge of the screen (perhaps not that useful, but interesting as an example of what's possible)  
 All windows can be iconified and placed on the WB desktop.
 The Media Toolbox does indeed seem to be a very powerful program.

According to Stefan Burström, who was at the show, MUI will be included in OS4, but initially locked in a configuration that  matches the look of Reaction. If you have a keyfile it will be changeable as usual of course.

Stefan Burström held a little (improvised) speech on IBrowse 2.3.  This version is (as we knew) mainly a bugfix for everything that was wrong in 2.2 and is as such a vast improvement. However new features such as CSS will not be implemented until IBrowse 3.0, which is going to be PPC native.  IB2.3 is free for registered users of 2.2.
 
There was plenty of people on the event. According to one of the people arranging the show, they calclulated some 200 amigans showing up for the few hours the event took place. There were people of every age, race, nationality and gender there,  and generally a nice atmopsphere (albeit somewhat crowded..) Thanks to the enthusiasts arranging this, you did a darn good job!
 
 
These are pictures taken by Johan 'Graak' Forsbeg (first posted on ANN):
 
http://www.amigbg.com/aonegbg/img/Grak/index.htm
 

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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2002, 01:06:18 AM »
Kronos? Any comments? :-D

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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2002, 01:15:05 AM »
@Coder:  now, now. Don't get him started!

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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2002, 01:18:32 AM »
@Coder
Hmm not really, but it seems that Eyetech/Hyperion are doing
free advertisment for

 [color=000033]PEGASOS+MorphOS[/color]
 :-D  :-P  :-D  :-P  :-D :-P  :-D  :-P  :-D  :-P  :-D
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2002, 01:20:16 AM »
Update:
 
The 'outside revenue' I wrote about is coming from MAI logic (as pointed out by Ole-Egil Hwitmyren) for having Hyperion create the firmware bootROM for their boards.  It apparently cointain a very clever x86 emulator to be able to initialize boards with only linux x86 drivers (as I understood it anyways... I might be wrong).
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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2002, 01:21:49 AM »
Huh?
 
No - on second though, don't elaborate on that.
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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2002, 01:23:40 AM »
@SlimJim: I noticed a Camcorder on a tripod in one of the photographs. Is someone going to post up any of the speeches?

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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2002, 01:32:07 AM »
They did shoot the full AOS4 presentation. Don't know about Alan Redhouse's speech. Unfortunately I missed  the AOne presentation by Ole-Egil et al,  that's why the info on PPCBoot is rather sketchy.  
 In short, I haven't got a clue as to what will be put out on the web.
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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2002, 01:34:47 AM »
Was there any news on the show about Amithlon 2?

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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2002, 01:39:38 AM »
Not that I heard. No official AInc people were there after all.
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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2002, 06:50:51 AM »
I spent the major part of a hectic weekend at the Gothenburg International Book Fair instead, and from what I've read so far (been home for an hour) only what was promised was shown: a couple of POP motherboards, and some new GUI elements and utilities on OS 3.x on an Amiga.

 I reckon the functionality of the already demoed components/modules can be gleaned from the info and screenshots that have been available for quite some time by now. Or? Well, I see someone filmed it all.

This picture made me giggle though. A translation of some extracts:
"Amiga is back."
Huh?
"AmigaOne is the new Amiga computer [...]"
HUH??
Who wrote this? Eyetech? Judging from the basic explanation of what AmigaOS is later on in this flyer (?) it seems like this is aimed at "outsiders", but why would someone try to fool the uninitiated that there will be "new Amiga computers"? Why try to scare people away from AmigaOS? The deluded microscopic minority who actually WANT "new Amigas" need to get their heads examined, they don't need to be marketed to.

BTW, the screenshot fetishists can check out this report from OASE2 for a crapload of AmigaOS and MorphOS screenshots, plus Mediators, Pegasoses, Terons and all kinds of goodies.
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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2002, 07:09:00 AM »
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PPCBoot by Hyperion is finished and handed out to existing (35-40 or so) betatesters


Just *how* are those "Frieden Features" applied to PPCBoot? I'm wondering since PPCBoot is a GPL project...
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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2002, 07:14:11 AM »
I don't know about GPL, but I know that Hyperion was licenced by MAI Logic to create this for their boards. The "x86-emulator" is a "Frieden feature" as you so very non-ironically put it.
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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2002, 07:24:05 AM »
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I don't know about GPL, but I know that Hyperion was licenced by MAI Logic to create this for their boards.


You mean "modify" or "add to", not "create" right? Or is this a completely new firmware only based on PPCBoot (in which case there should be no doubt that it's all governed by the GPL?)?

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The "x86-emulator" is a "Frieden feature" as you so very non-ironically put it.


I have no idea what an x86 emulator has to do with PPCBoot or any firmware. With the "Frieden Feature" alliteration I was referring to "PPCboot apparantly contains some pretty nifty features by the Frieden brothers".
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Re: Pictures and News from AmiGBG Fall Event
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2002, 07:34:53 AM »
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You mean "modify" or "add to", not "create" right? Or is this a completely new firmware only based on PPCBoot (in which case there should be no doubt that it's all governed by the GPL?)?

 
This I do not know. You have to ask Ben Hermans about the fine details.
 
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I have no idea what an x86 emulator has to do with PPCBoot or any firmware. With the "Frieden Feature" alliteration I was referring to "PPCboot apparantly contains some pretty nifty features by the Frieden brothers"

 
The x86 emulator is a clever way of allowing graphics cards with x86 BIOS to initiate even when there isn't any native PPC support (once again, as I understood it).
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