Jesus Christ on a Bicycle!
Anonymous wrote:
If you are so against AmigaINC and thier stratagies then why do you bother?
I'm not against Amiga Inc. (only moron trolls find factions where there shouldn't be any and take sides for or against companies and individuals merely based on their names), but I'm against their strategies and methods in this case. I bother because I'd like to buy Amiga OS and since I liked previous versions of the Amiga OS I have hopes that OS4 will be good. I was hoping we'd no longer be tied to only specific hardware from (a) specific compan(y|ies), since Amiga Inc. has fsck all to do with hardware.
Anyone who wants the AmigaONE for using Amiga programs seems to have no problem with the idea of getting the OS with the MB.
Of course they don't! The A1G3-SE is just one piece of hardware only available from one specific distributor. Why on earth would somebody planning to run OS4 have a problem with the OS coming bundled
in that one specific case?
Maybe this could be the last time I'll have to repeat this in this thread: There is no "Amiga". Nobody makes Amigas. Nobody will be making Amigas. The A1G3-SE is irrelevant to the points I'm trying to make. It should be just yet another piece of hardware from just yet another distributor.
The only people who seem to have a problem with this idea is the peple who want to use it for other OS's ie Linux (although why when x86 solutions are far cheaper)
Did you really read the executive update? Did you read Alan Redhouse's and Ben Herman's "clarifications"? Did you read the posts in this very thread of the user you're replying to?
Why the fsck would non-AmigaOS users have a problem with this? They can buy whatever hardware compatible with their OS they bloody well want. They can even buy "Amiga licensed" hardware bundled with Amiga OS and run another OS on if they were insane and would like to pay more for their hardware. We who want AmigaOS can't choose our own hardware and whom we will buy it from. That's the problem.
You say you that MS is only protecting it's own product, but so is AI, surely you can see that.
Of course I can see that. AI just chose a completely brain-dead solution to the piracy problem, which will hurt us who want to buy Amiga OS, us who will have to buy only licensed hardware and the PPC market and development rate, and ultimately Amiga Inc. The pirates will circumvent a silly ROM protection anyway, if they'll bother with a doomed tiny market at all.
Not to mention the fact that approved HW and SW solutions normally mean that the machine is far more stable as all the programs have to conform to the correct standards and be OS legal.
If you had read my posts you'd have seen that I agree that this would be fine and dandy.
Compulsory licensing and
compulsory OS/hardware bundling is NOT.
If there are two identical motherboards available from
1. A licensed distributor, bundled with the OS
and
2. Everybody else
then I would go for the "everybody else" category and buy my OS separately if that meant it would be cheaper and if I hadn't had that option taken away from me by AI.
If I wanted guaranteed support and whatever other advantages I might get from the licensed dealer and if cost was no concern for me I'd buy it from him.
The thing is that now I have only the licensed dealer to "choose" from, and if there's no licensed dealer offering this motherboard I can't get the hardware I want at all.
I for one have no problem getting the OS and MB together as I suspect a majority of Amiga users don't mind either. We are simply happy that the Amiga is comming back on some resonably decent hardware.
"The Amiga" isn't coming back, thank God! The Amiga OS is updated and ported to run on PPC hardware.
I and a majority of Amiga OS users would have no problem buying the OS together with the hardware. I just don't want to be restricted to the hardware and distributors AI dictates.
*sigh*
Sorry for any harsh tone above, but it's annoying to repeatedly reply to someone who clearly hasn't tried to comprehend what was written previously in the thread, and having to repeat yourself. Well, that someone being anonymous doesn't help either...
