The same entity that appointed you the saviour of the Amiga.
PFFFT.
You wan't to know about the real world. In the real world people use PCs and MAC. The Amiga need a hell of a lot of catching up to do before it can even be taken as a serious platform at all. How much more real do you want it? Learn to accept reality my friend. 
No shit Sherlock. Can you READ? What does: "3. PC =x86 hardware running Windows for anywhere between 90 and 95% of the worlds computers." mean to you?
There was no question. Just an unqualified statement. Read the title again.
I see, so its now a question of grammar. Maybe we could add a full stop at the end followed by the word "Discuss."
It's only zealotry that has led you to conflate this issue into an unrecognisable mess and introduce criteria and questions where there were none.
translation: " couldn't be arsed reading and understanding all of the posts in the thread nor think beyond the obvious"
It seem you still can't make the simple distinction between hardware and software. :roflmao:
PC hardware without software does nothing. Its pointless separating the two.
Aww.
Why only one? Knock yourself out we're all listening intently. Don't say you are running out of steam already? Oh yes your health. OK step back then.
Because it only takes ONE to show the PC is still playing catchup. But WAIT. There was MORE..
Back to software are we? The company I work for needs to exchange MS Office ducuments and run a decent web browser as a bare minimum.
YOU might. The user examples I gave don't, some people who need to quickly sample a music riff in the middle of the night just need a fast booting A1200.
I'm sorry sttuffing a load of hobby home computers in our offices is not goung to make us more productive.
We run LAMP servers and can even use basic specced machines for that. Unfortunately a stock AMIGA 1200 just wont cut the mustard there. (You are the one that wants to stick to basics and not use "souped up machines" so you at least use your own criteria in this one.)
And I bet you can't do gene sequencing/process nuclear physics data/analyse climate models as fast as Big Blue with your XP network either. Whats your point?
So you are writing a 10000 word proposal and you hit the off button you won't lose any data on an Amiga? Wow! That's amazing! The business world should really be told about this breakthrough. I don't think you are evangelising it enough. :eek:
1. Never had to write 10,000 words of anything. 2. Even a cardigan-wearing gronk would know to SAVE his file before he switches off his computer. 3. how would the same data not be lost on the PC if you don't save it first?
Come on. You are clutching at straws here. Not having to shutdown safely is hardly a feature that is going to affect our servers which haven't been shut down for years. We don't miss it one bit.
Never said anything about not having shutdown safely being anything to YOUR f'en servers. The point about safely switching off was to counter a previous argument that Amiga can corrupt your drive if you shut down mid-write, but if you could be arsed reading the thread, you'd know this. Being able to flick a switch and shutdown instantly means people can leave their PC straight away, instead of coming home to find their PC has been in shutdown mode for 8 hours due to some silly process that has blocked the shut down, but they couldn't wait to be around the PC to see it shutdown.
You're work in a server-client environment. Many people at home don't, many people shut down their PC's daily, to them it matters..Its a feature that many PC user would be glad to have, but no YOU might not care, but so what, it DOESN"T CHANGE THE FACT THAT PC's STILL CAN"T DO IT.
Sure not being able to serve DHTML web pages at all is a bit too secure to be useful at all.
I'm sure i couldn't give a toss about serving DHTML on an A1200
Good luck to them. Those examples hardly put PCs to shame.
VERY good luck to them: it cost them a few hundred dollars and no tech support costs. An equivalent PC set up would cost many $1000's for the dentist, and tens of thousands for the aged-care facility to achieve the same.
I can do more than that on my mobile phone.
Really? you can run a public touch screen /multi screen display from your phone? Which phone? which software? which screens?
The Amiga needs billions of dollars of investment to be a serious contender and catch up with to the established platforms.
And this is relevant because......?
But it runs the majority of the worlds website including all major Amiga websites. (This one included) so it has it's uses and is far more advanced as a platform than the limited Amiga.
Just because I don't like linux doesnt mean I will deny it's capabilities and usefulness.
i highlighted linux's hardware recognition/configuration issues which simply don't exist to anywhere near the same degree with classic Amiga. That's all thats is needed in the context fo the discussion.
Funny I had similar problems trying to get one of my A1200s up to scratch.
provided you installed from original operating system disks then you had defective ie broken hardware.
Send me a ticket please. Cloud cuckoo land sounds like quite an inviting place.
i think you boarded the plane a long time ago..
My current user experience with PCs is fine. It's better and more productive for me than trying to force an ancient (but elegant) Amiga system to try and do it for me.
I don't need to catch up with anything.
good for you.
(1) Oh crap my TV boots up instantly. tell the PC using world that they need to catch up :eek:
It makes no frigging difference in the Real World. It's how useful it is after boot up that matters to most sane peopl
It matters to Microsoft who are highlighting Win 7's improved boot and shut down times, it matters to the many reviewers of Win 7 who highlight this as well. Ask a PC user: would you like to boot in 5 seconds and shutdown with the flick of a switch?
So your argument is: yeah Amiga's boot faster, but i run from a server, I never shut down, i can do more than an Amiga so i don't care. Good for you. But none of that makes your PC boot any faster. And admit it you'd really like a PC that boots in 5 seconds and shuts down instantly, wouldn't you? And admit it your pC can't do this.
(2) Security through obscurity eh? Sh!t !!! I think we need to make all PCs obscure to CATCH UP with the Amiga. :eek:
Since when has obscurity been a sought after feature? :crazy:
CRAZY but thats REALITY: I can get on the net, open all sorts of malicous email with ZERO anti-malware software and it has NO EFFECT on my Amiga. Your PC can't. How, why- is irrelevant. ITS THE REALITY.
(3) I'm sorry to say that the PCs I use daily are a heck of a lot more responsive and useful to me than my A1200 could ever be. I could use an Amiga to do some of my tasks but I'd probably get fired for taking hours too long on tasks that should really be completed in minutes.
On my A1200, i get far less wait-cursers, and when i click on a mouse button i always get an instant response, and when i move my mouse the pointer always moves with it. That doesn't always happen with my PC.
Look! a tool is a tool alright.
Agreed. And sometimes my Amiga is still the better tool for some jobs that I-and others- want to do.
What I don't do is lie to myself that they are the worlds answer to poverty as well as the kitchen sink.
Well NOW your plane to LaLaLand has landed on the tarmac..