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Offline Methuselas

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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2009, 02:00:43 AM »
Apollo Accelerators are pieces of sh!t. 'Nuff said.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2009, 02:21:10 AM »
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Apollo Accelerators are pieces of sh!t. 'Nuff said.


That's bad news, for me anyway :boohoo:

Are they still a POS if upgraded to an 060?
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2009, 02:36:12 AM »
They are hardly a POS.
I've had mine for years without issue. All my WHDLoad games work perfectly.

For WHDLoad, i do have to add the "nocache" tooltype to the game icon before they work.

Does your Amiga boot without a 68040.library at all?


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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2009, 02:56:06 AM »
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They are hardly a POS.
I've had mine for years without issue. All my WHDLoad games work perfectly.

For WHDLoad, i do have to add the "nocache" tooltype to the game icon before they work.

Does your Amiga boot without a 68040.library at all?


Yea, it boots without a 68040 library. But I've tried several versions of the 68040 library, and it hangs when booting with all of them.

I've got a real clean installation of OS 3.1 because I just got the A1200 recently.

Are you using the stock Commodore 68040 library?

I'll try the nocache option, but I think I may be wasting my time because I seem to have a weird situation by not being able to use a 68040.library.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2009, 03:08:11 AM »
I don't have any 68040.library at all.
I tried the Commodore 68040.library from the 3.9 disk and my Amiga refuses to boot also, which must have been why I didn't have one installed.

However, I don't have any apparent side effects from not having it. Sysinfo reports a speed of 17613, all apps and WHDLoad games work.

I'll see if I can round up a working library tho.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2009, 05:24:01 AM »
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Methuselas wrote:
Apollo Accelerators are pieces of sh!t. 'Nuff said.


Says someone who obviously never owned one.

@KatManDew

Are you *sure* you're using the correct (larger size) library? Have you tried Thor's? (Those work beautiful on every accelerator I own, btw.) Phase5 libraries also work fine here, but mine is an '060 card.

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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2009, 06:28:55 AM »
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Methuselas wrote:
Apollo Accelerators are pieces of sh!t. 'Nuff said.


Says someone who obviously never owned one.

@KatManDew

Are you *sure* you're using the correct (larger size) library? Have you tried Thor's? (Those work beautiful on every accelerator I own, btw.) Phase5 libraries also work fine here, but mine is an '060 card.



I tried Thor's 68040.library only, without intalling the whole package. No go. I tried the Phase5 libraries. I tried every 68040 library I can find. No go.

Something weird is going on because ever since I installed the 3.1 ROM's today, Directory Opus wouldn't run. I've installed the Apollo 1240 and the 3.1 ROM's since I installed OS 3.1 and Opus, so I blew away the hard drive and started from scratch. DOpus still wouldn't run. Somewhere along the way I booted with the CPU cache disabled, and DOpus runs with the CPU caches disabled. I didn't have to do that to run DOpus with the 3.0 ROM's.

Me thinks a usable 68040 library might be in order...

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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2009, 07:00:55 AM »
Check that - DOpus will not even run with the CPU cache disabled anymore.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2009, 07:50:16 AM »
are you using a flash disk or normal HDD ?

does dopus run without the apollo ?
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2009, 03:32:13 PM »
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are you using a flash disk or normal HDD ?

does dopus run without the apollo ?


I'm using a normal 2.5 inch HDD.

DOpus ran fine with the Apollo until I installed the 3.1 ROM's yesterday.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2009, 03:59:24 PM »
See if you have a motherboard jumper to raise the ROM speed. I remember some reports of 3.1 ROMs that were not as fast as old ones and caused problems.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2009, 04:51:16 PM »
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See if you have a motherboard jumper to raise the ROM speed. I remember some reports of 3.1 ROMs that were not as fast as old ones and caused problems.


I just tried again, and got it to boot with one of the 68040 libraries from an APollo install disk that I got at Amiga Resource (there are two 68040 libs on that disk, both of which I tried before).

But DOpus still won't work.. I get the Suspend - Reboot message. error #8000000B
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2009, 05:06:31 PM »
Are you using a recent DOpus, as in 4.16 or 4.17? The older, commercial releases in the 4.11 neighborhood are somewhat crashy on high-end hardware.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2009, 06:40:43 PM »
Rather than Opus, I would suggest DM2.  It will do most of what Opus does, and seems to get along with anything I have ever thrown at it.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2009, 06:52:47 PM »
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See if you have a motherboard jumper to raise the ROM speed. I remember some reports of 3.1 ROMs that were not as fast as old ones and caused problems.


I don't see a jumper on my motherboard.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 28, 2009, 07:02:42 PM »
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Matt_H wrote:
Are you using a recent DOpus, as in 4.16 or 4.17? The older, commercial releases in the 4.11 neighborhood are somewhat crashy on high-end hardware.


It's version 4.16. It worked before I installed the 3.1 ROM's.

I can't find a version 4.17 on Aminet.
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