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68040 library?
« on: February 27, 2009, 02:35:09 AM »
What's the skinny on the 68040.library, and variants that I've seen? What are they for?

I had to delete the 68040 library to get my A1200 to boot from HD with an Apollo 1240 accelerator. It's less compatable with WHDLoad games than my A2000 with GVP 040, and I use the 68040.library with it...
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 03:03:17 AM »
http://phase5.a1k.org/
try the one in there.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 03:37:37 AM »
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I had to delete the 68040 library to get my A1200 to boot from HD with an Apollo 1240 accelerator. It's less compatable with WHDLoad games than my A2000 with GVP 040, and I use the 68040.library with it...


I'm no expert by a long shot, but regarding WHDLoad games and an 040/060... has to do with the way memory is mapped? You need to edit WHDLoad's config file in your S directory. What kind of errors are you getting? If getting memory errors, delete the semicolon before the noautovec option and then save of course.

Re: the variants in libraries... like anything else computing wise, there are bugs and conflicts with various peripherals and set ups. Always best to install the latest drivers...
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 03:55:39 AM »
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http://phase5.a1k.org/
try the one in there.


That didn't work. The archive contained these files.

68040.library (a small file)
68040new.library
68040old.library
68060.library

I copied those file as-is to my libs folder, and it wouldn't boot.

I deleted the small 68040.library and renamed 68040new.library to 68040library, and it wouldn't boot.

What am I doing wrong?
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 05:46:34 AM »
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What am I doing wrong?

These libs are for phase5 accelerators, I'm not so sure they work with Apollo ones.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 05:53:19 AM »
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And anyway, these libs are for phase5 accelerators, I'm not so sure they work with Apollo ones.


That's what I wondered... I found those (same?) 68040 files when researching the Apollo 68040, and found them on a combination Apollo 88040/86060 disk, but they also didn't work.

Seems to me that if I have a 68040, I should be using a 68040.library (like I am with the 040 in my A2000). But I've seen reference to the fact that the 68040.libray(s) are a ball game in and of themselves...
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2009, 09:11:59 AM »
With my apollo i replaced the 68040 library with the one from os3.9....it gave the apollo a substantial speed increase for some reason.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2009, 10:08:59 AM »
try out Thor's MMU library, MuRedox and Thor 68040 libraries.

http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/MMULib

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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2009, 01:21:33 PM »
Don´t you need a "dummy"-library with Apollo? But that maybe just for 3040/4040.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2009, 09:38:58 PM »
Like the FortyFusion, keep the original 040 commodore libs v37  :-)
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 12:16:29 AM »
I haven't tried Thor's MMU yet, but the OS 3.9 library didin't work. She locks up on boot.

I just got the 3.1 roms today and it doesn't work with them installed either.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 12:21:56 AM »
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 01:31:21 AM »
Since nobody gave you an explaination of what this library is, i wiil give it a try:
 68040 and 68060 CPUs have some micro-instructions missing in relation to the older (68000-68030) CPUs. They are mainly floating point instructions, but there are a couple of CPU ones as well.
 This is where the 68040.library comes in. It emulates these missing instuctions and allows you to run code which was written for older CPUs. If your CPU encounters one of these instructions in a program that you try to run and the 68040.library is not initialized, it will cause a guru or a system lockup/crash, iirc.

 If you tried every available version of this library and you continue to experience crashes, try to update the Setpatch command and in case you have install CyberPatcher, try to remove it.
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2009, 01:50:06 AM »
Thanks for the 68040.library description. That makes sense.

I think the lack of one is causing me and unknown amount of problems. After I installed the 3.1 ROM's today, DOpus won't run anymore :-?

And I can't boot from a OS 3.9 Emergency Disk floppy modified to install 3.9 from a CF card - she just locks up...

Most WHDLoad games wouldn't work even with the 3.0 ROM's. My 1200 has been less compatable with WHDLoad than my A2000 with OS 3.9...
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Re: 68040 library?
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2009, 02:00:43 AM »
Apollo Accelerators are pieces of sh!t. 'Nuff said.
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