Subway USB installation problem

[portarinos]

Yeahhh! That's that. Finally i'm through the final procedure!!!

@all
Many many thanx for your advice, time and support.

[portarinos]

When i solved all the above problems with MUI, installed Poseidon, opened Trident from Prefs, installed subway device, rebooted but then nothing. Do i have to do sth manually (libs etc.)? What is the exact procedure step by step.

[Darrin]

Your next step should be to shove a memory stick into one of your USB ports and then watch in amazement as the Amiga detects and mounts it.

Oh, don't forget to install "FAT95" file system on the Amiga!

[portarinos]

I suppose you mean fat95 in SYS:L. It is necessary in order for the amiga to recognise drives that have been formated in a PC or sth? In case fat95 doesn't exist in the system, won't there be an icon of a non recognised drive shown? I mean the drive should appear anyway, either readable or readable? I'm saying this cause i already shoved a pc formated usb stick and nothing appeared on screen.

[Darrin]

portarinos wrote:
I suppose you mean fat95 in SYS:L. It is necessary in order for the amiga to recognise drives that have been formated in a PC or sth? In case fat95 doesn't exist in the system, won't there be an icon of a non recognised drive shown? I mean the drive should appear anyway, either readable or readable? I'm saying this cause i already shoved a pc formated usb stick and nothing appeared on screen.

I'm not sure how the system will react without it as I've always installed it straight away with the Deneb.  You wont be able to access FAT drives without it, but whether you'll get a NoDOS icon is something I cannot say.

Once it is installed, you'll shove a stick or a drive in the slot, a window should appear stating the USB stack detected it and then you'll see it being mounted.  If you go to the stack preferences then you should see it listed

[portarinos]

Unfortunately still nothing happens whatever the effort! Guess i'll have to contact Amigakit. I don't want to think that after all this it's the hardware to blame!  :-(  :-(

[alexh]

Most likely user error ;-)

[portarinos]

Yes indeed!!! But that's what i'm trying to do, to get some help in order to find what the user is doing wrong. ;-)

[alexh]

RTFM first, go over the manual install as described in the Poseidon GUIDE:

1)Does the file LIBS:poseidon.library exist?
2)Does the file DEVS:USBHardware/subwayusb.device exist?
3)Does the file SYS:Classes/USB/massstorage.class exist?
4)Does the file C:AddUSBClasses exist?
5)Does the file C:AddUSBHardware exist?
6)Does the file C:PsdErrorLog exist?
7)Does the file C:PsdDevLister exist?
8)Does the file C:PenCamTool exist?
9)Does the file SYS:Prefs/Trident exist?
...
...
20)Does your startup sequence have the lines:
 ENVARC:PsdStackloader
 LoadModule DEVS:input.device QUIET
21)Does the file SYS:Storage/DOSDrivers/UMSD exist?

etc:

Read the FAQ in the aformentioned Poseidon Guide.

Use the Online Reporting Tool in Trident?

[portarinos]

I'll (re)check later although i'm quite sure i have already Read TFM and done exactly what it says!!! Anyway, thanx m8.

[portarinos]

Sorry for being such a tiring person with the same problem again but still no luck. Re-read the manual and guide, did everything as described, saved config (psdstackloader) in ENVARC but now i get the following message in error log:

Failure poseidon.library
Opening DEVS:USBHardware/subway.device unit 0 failed device/ unit failed

Hope that helps a bit! Any ideas please?

[platon42]

portarinos wrote:
Sorry for being such a tiring person with the same problem again but still no luck. Re-read the manual and guide, did everything as described, saved config (psdstackloader) in ENVARC but now i get the following message in error log:

Failure poseidon.library
Opening DEVS:USBHardware/subway.device unit 0 failed device/ unit failed

Hope that helps a bit! Any ideas please?

First, the manual states what is considered to be a useful "bugreport", which means including *all* information necessary for analysis. It's much less tiring if you give a complete copy&paste output of the PsdErrorlog, which also can be saved from Trident or be sent via the Online-Report feature.

If what you wrote above is a direct copy of the errorlog, the error is that the device is not named "subway.device" but rather "subwayusb.device" and you have to use exactly that name, case sensitive. If you'd used the file requester for selecting the device instead of typing it in manually, this problem wouldn't have occurred.

Also, the subwayusb.device will be added to the default configuration during the *first time* installation of Poseidon, iff (sic!) the Subway was connected at that point of time.

[portarinos]

First of all my miggy isn't connected to the net so copy/paste is out of question.

What i wrote is an exact  copy of the errorlog so it's pretty much the same. The device hasn't been typed by hand. I have selected it using the requester.

I see that i might have to make a fresh partition and re-install 3.9 + bb1 and 2 just in case. I remember installing Poseidon once but maybe during the first installation i did sth wrong that remained in the system so then everything goes wrong.

Also i remember having connected the Subway!!! I'm not so ignorant, but let me put this straight: not everybody around here is an amiga expert so whoever thinks that some question is silly he won't bother to answer. I could have mailed you but i prefered to make this public in order for someone having similar problems in the future to find solutions and not open a new thread.  ;-)

Thanx for your time anyway  :-)  

[platon42]

portarinos wrote:
First of all my miggy isn't connected to the net so copy/paste is out of question.

What i wrote is an exact  copy of the errorlog so it's pretty much the same. The device hasn't been typed by hand. I have selected it using the requester.

I see that i might have to make a fresh partition and re-install 3.9 + bb1 and 2 just in case. I remember installing Poseidon once but maybe during the first installation i did sth wrong that remained in the system so then everything goes wrong.

Also i remember having connected the Subway!!! I'm not so ignorant, but let me put this straight: not everybody around here is an amiga expert so whoever thinks that some question is silly he won't bother to answer. I could have mailed you but i prefered to make this public in order for someone having similar problems in the future to find solutions and not open a new thread.  ;-)

Thanx for your time anyway  :-)  

Back to square one.

Please thoroughly read the posts. Half the postings in the past were caused by you not reading and doing exactly what was written there (multiple people said you should use "lha", but instead you insisted in using "unarc" which caused the problems in the first place). If some people give up on you after some time, this isn't about ignorance, but rather annoyance.

I need that errorlog. As I previously said, you can save it to disk too. Saving it to a PC disk would be an option, right? And then using a PC to post it here?

Possible reasons why the subwayusb.device fails to open:

1) Subway not connected to the clockport. Be aware that there are A1200s that have the wrong side of the connector populated (see printed manual), and connecting the subway to this connector will not work. Also connecting the Subway the wrong way round just once will burn and kill the hardware within a few seconds.

2) Subway broken. In this case, the subwayusb.device will either report different error codes, depending if it could be detected at all or if the self-test fails.

3) Wrong case in the file name. In this case, the device will not open.

4) Out of memory. Unlikely.

Ah yes, this is my last attempt too in retrieving some useful information for solving your problem. After that, you're welcome to continue using this forum for support. You know, usually its the other way round in the sense that people should contact the support by email first (and no, Amiga.org PMs don't count as emails).

[portarinos]

I see. Unfortunately you just didn't see my point! I was tempted to answer because of the last part of your post. If this is your last attempt to help me then be my guest. Whoever wanted to help me did it because he saw that i had a problem either this was due to my ignorance or software/hardware reasons. For instance Keropi and Darrin kindly offered to help through PM's and didn't make a fuss of it. I just sent you a pm asking for help as you are the person behind Poseidon. I din't know that this is a crime and that you only answer officialy (sic) to e-mails!

As for the fact that i didn't  "thoroughly read the posts and half of them  were caused by me not reading and doing exactly what was written" then i should say that i really had a hard time reading all the posts 1000 times because i didn't want to annoy people in here with the same questions. I insisted on using "unarc" against your advice cause i simply found out that this WASN'T the problem but the fact that i hadn't installed BB2 in my system (which eventually did when i thought of  and solved the problem)

As for the possible steps/solutions (?) i have to say that this afternoon i freshly installed 3.9 + bb1/2 and tried everything as described by you today. The result? Guess what: pretty much the same with teh messages before. Anyway, whoever is willing to help me without asking me not to ask....silly things, please do so.

In fact as i wrote before this is a community forum where not everybody is experts. Is this a crime? Nah!

In the end of all this, let me tell you that it's not a personal debate between us 2 of course, but since you have been ironic towards me then i think i had to protect myself and most of all continue to ask what i'm really lookung for.....a solution to my problem.

Thanx again and a big sorry to all for this loooooong post   :-)  :-)

[portarinos]

Since reinstalling software and trying again and again hasn't offered any solution so far, i decided to check if the thing works in OS4. Any idea on how i will install it? Does it need any extra configuration? Is Poseidon necessary in OS4 or installing it won't make the subway work? I believe that OS4 has a built in usb stack but will it collaborate with subway just out of the box or does it need tweaking? I tried yesterday but i suppose that i have to do that extra thing that i'm missing right now. Any OS4 users with USB please?