Subway USB installation problem

[Darrin]

portarinos wrote:
Of course i'm not saying that it has to do clearly with the hardware part. I said that it should work out of the box for me too but it seems that sth is goiing wrong with installers, MUI and things like these. And of course the fact that it works for you is of no further help for me right now. Maybe you could tell me what you did or what your config is. :-D Thanx anyway   :-)

I don't have a Subway, but I have a Deneb.

Try doing an install on a clean 3.x installation and that way you'll at least know that the hardware isn't at fault.

#1.  Copy the MUI archive, the latest INSTALLER command and LHA to some Amiga floppies.

#2.  Install OS3.x

#3.  Copy LHA and INSTALLER into your C draw.

#4.  Unarchive MUI to RAM or a folder and install it.

#5.  Install your Subway software and cross your fingers.

[taunusand]

It's my A1200 in my signature.
I have kickstart 3.1 and run WB 3.1 on it.

I have to agree with alexh, maybe it's time for a fresh install.

[keropi]

That is so strange, never had any kind of probs with my E3B/PSD products... I just installed PSD and it just works!
MUI is an important set of libs, it is essential for many more things than poseidon, so this is not a "strange" requirement...
You should really try OS3.9 , and extract the MUI usr archive with UNARC in RAM: ... then just install it with it's default settings, reboot and all is OK..!

[portarinos]

Did exactly what Keropi suggested, did a fresh 3.9 install  but again the same message. It seems like a dead end anyway:

COPYLIB: Can't open file " " in line 299
Dos Error Type: Unable to locate a file or drawer

I have downloaded again the MUI file from aminet just to make sure. Is there any way that i could install MUI manually without using the script? Is there anything else i could do? Really really desperate. Sorry for insisting on the same matter but.......


EDIT: Another question i wanted to make. Does MUI come with 3.9 (cause in my installation cd it doesn't seem to exist) or everybody had to download and install it?  

[keropi]

damn!
you extract MUI on the amiga right? just to be sure

[Darrin]

Make a fresh OS3.1 install, copy LHA and the lastest INSTALLER to your C draw, type LHA x (e.g. df0:MUI8.LHA) and watch it unpack to your RAM drive.  Open your RAM drive and install MUI from there.

Does that work?

[portarinos]

Nope. Maybe a really bad coincidence but still the same problem. What else?  :-?  :-?  :-?

[platon42]

portarinos wrote:
Can we call it progress really? New messages:

COPYLIB: Can't open file "  " in line 299
Dos Error Type: Unable to locate a file or drawer


I suspect that it will be sth really not so big that ruins the process

As I and others have pointed out, there is a file in the MUI archive with only a " " (space) as filename.

From this Article http://www1.uk.freebsd.org/docs/rview/AmigaOS39revie.txt:

"The Unarchivng applet has an interesting feature. When unarchiving, any files with a space in their names are renamed, with the spaced filled in with an underscore character. This was noticed by someone (sorry, I can't remember your name who was installing MUI and the installed bombed out asking for a file that had been remaned by the applet. Since AmigaDOS allows spaced in filenames, it seems odd that an OS application should have this behaviour. Bug or design decision? You can confirm this by archiving your Devs: directory. Upon unarchiving with the applet, Amiga OS ROM Update will be renamed Amiga_OS_ROM_Update."

So the solution is, as Darrin et al have pointed out:

Open a shell window (Execute Command "newshell" in Workbench or double click on the shell icon) and enter the following commands (assuming you already have lha -- if you don't, the Rescue-Image of the Deneb Flashrom comes with the "lhex" standalone extractor which will work equally well):

Cd RAM:
lha x pathtoyourMUIusr38.lha

Now you should be able to install MUI from your Ram Disk.

[Darrin]

portarinos wrote:
Nope. Maybe a really bad coincidence but still the same problem. What else?  :-?  :-?  :-?

Try redownloading the MUI archive from Aminet and copy the LHA to your Amiga via a PC formatted floppy and CrossDOS.  Don't do any "fiddling" with it on the PC side.

Also, email me at Darrin01311 at AOL dot com and let me send you the Installer command while we're at it.

[portarinos]

Tried the Shell solution as suggested:

cd RAM
unarc 3.1:mui38usr.lha

Still no solution as the unarchived MUI folder whicj i used to installed MUI from RAM still produces the same messages

COPYLIB: Can't open file " " in line 299
Dos Error Type: Unable to locate a file or drawer


 :madashell:  :-?  :madashell:  :-?  :madashell:  :crazy:  :boohoo:

[Darrin]

Download and use LHA instead?  I'm only saying that because it is what I used.

[Piru]

As it has been stated numerous times already, unarc is buggy. Don't use it.

[Dwyloc]

Download http://aminet.net/util/arc/lha.run copy it to ram: on your amiga and run it, its the latest command line version version of lha supplied in a self extracting lha archive.

If you then rename the correct version of lha for your cpu to lha (probably lha_68020) then copy it to c:

and use lha to extract the archive, before installing it.

Or just rename the file called "_" to " " after you extract the MUI archive with unarc from workbench before running the installer.

I have a subway USB card in my A1200 and it works very well after you install MUI.

[portarinos]

At last OK with MUI. After i tried all the above with no results, i noticed better what was meant by renaming the problematic file named "_". I renamed it to what the popping message was complaining that couldn't find. Renamed it to " (no name)  " with the difference that i had to press space bar once cause otherwise it couldn't be accepted as only a....blank name. Anyway, finally managed to install MUI but Poseidon is still complaining that it can't find the muimaster.library. I suspect that i have installed MUI in the wrong place (SYS).
 Do i have to install it in some specific dir that Poseidon is looking in for when trying to run it?

[Dwyloc]

Have you rebooted after installing MUI?  The install process for MUI creates assigns in the user-startup that will not take effect until you reboot, so if you have not done that yet I would reboot then run the installer for your subway USB card again incase it install any additional MUI libs then you should be able to run the trident USB prefrences program and start using your new USB adapter.

[portarinos]

Yeahhh! That's that. Finally i'm through the final procedure!!!

@all
Many many thanx for your advice, time and support.