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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2003, 10:17:51 AM »
While its great you guys are getting an AmigaONE, i do think its a great shame you guys never experienced the thrill of putting a graphics card in your classic Amiga for the first time.

Remember when you first put a hard disk in an Amiga back when they were a "luxury" item, and how awesome that was? Well, multiply that by 100 and you're nearly there ;-)

Going from 030/25+AGA to 030/25+CV/64 3D was a *MUCH* bigger and better leap for me than going from 030/25+CV/64 3D to 060/50+CV64/3D.

Oh well. I suppose the leap to AmigaONE+OS4 will be even more exciting for you guys than it will be for us graphics card users... ;-)
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2003, 10:41:51 AM »
@xeron:

Agreed.

I went from 020-14 to 040-25 (great improvement) to 040-40 (noticeable) and then from AGA to Voodoo3. THEN I saw what it was all about. Wow. Workbench in 1600x1200 24bit on a 68040 is actually useable. Web browser suddenly looked ok. Images could be viewed in multiview and still look EXCELLENT. Etc ad nauseam.
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2003, 11:02:27 AM »
My Amiga

I came into using my Amiga seriously a bit too late for me.  My PC already did most of what I wanted to do, and I didn't have a bottomless wallet.  :-)
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2003, 11:03:53 AM »
Since upgrades are rediculously expensive, I am among those without an RTG card of any kind. So I would have to vote on support for at least AGA in your apps.

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On a side note, it seems silly to be lacking cheap hardware out there... After all, using a PLD to translate between the Amiga and whatever chip a board needs is a pretty easy thing. Zorro to PLD to SCSI chip... BAM! New SCSI controller. Zorro to PLD to networking chip... BAM! New 10/100 NIC. Hell, even the PCI boards can be made dirt cheap with a PLD and one of QuickLogic's chips.

The hardest part is writing the driver!
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2003, 11:09:59 AM »
I have one A1200T with a CV64/3D and one A1200D with just plain AGA.

Actually, I like the custom chips. Since I'm a demo fanatic I like being able to start demos from the workbench/shell without having to hook up an extra monitor to my computer. That's about the only reason. Oh yeah, and AMOSPro isn't promotable :-)
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2003, 11:11:21 AM »
I second Stimpzilla.  It is too expensive and complicated to add a graphics card to an A1200, especially when I plan on getting an amigaOne anyway.

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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2003, 11:28:37 AM »
A3000 number 1. Retina BLT ZIII
 A3000 number 2. no RTG
 VT2000, Toaster board but no RTG
 My other 4 A2000's no RTG
 6 x A500's no RTG
 3 x A1000's no RTG :-D
 
 I just sold my CD32 and an A1000, both mint and boxed neither had RTG. :-P
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2003, 11:29:22 AM »
You're forgetting that all the good chips out there are PCI to whatever, so you would need a Zorro to PCI PLD, and last time I checked this was called a Mediator.
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2003, 11:57:01 AM »
My A1200 tower still uses AGA.
No gfx card as adding one would cost more than my pegasos mobo did. Too dear.
Anyway, AGA works ok for what I use my A1200 for.
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #23 on: September 05, 2003, 12:08:37 PM »

Well, since returning from home I now have 2 A1200's :-D. One is fully towered and has a BVision card, the other is a keyboard wedge with just the custom chips.

I gotta say, I love em' both...

@Xeron

I agreee totally - The wow factor of fitting the BVision was easily as big as the PPC card.
I reckon, however, my favourite upgrade was my first accelerator card :

Stock 2MB (chip only)  A1200 -> Apollo 1240 (full 040@25MHz) + 16Mb fast

After fiddling with some settings (forcing various pointers / libraries into fast ram) and getting some 040 optimised libraries, the speed increase was awesome.

I ended up getting a BlizzPPC later, but should have gone for the 060 version (was too damn broke at the time). Ah well...
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #24 on: September 05, 2003, 12:42:00 PM »
I'm an AGA freak, too :)

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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2003, 12:42:25 PM »
At work I have 4 Amigas with Toasters and one Flyer. My A4000T has PPC. Getting non-X86 hardware or software from my employer is now almost impossible. (Heck, they're afraid I'll duel boot one of the network machines with Linux.)

I'd love to have a graphics card or two, but it ain't going to happen unless I win the Lottery.
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #26 on: September 05, 2003, 12:59:22 PM »
Well I WAS going to get a graphics card, but
with the Peg2 around the corner I decided to
hold off. I may yet get one, but I'm not sure
if I want to continue upgrading my 1200D+060
(so close), or start over with a 4000. I have
a feeling that after I get the Peg, the 1200
will become mainly a demo machine, hence a gfx
card won't be necessary (but I'd still love to have a setup capable of playing Planet Potion;).


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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2003, 01:00:07 PM »
I don't have any RTG in any of my amigas, have been looking for one over the years but never found any cheap enough.  Now I have dropped all the plans of a gfxcard since I'm planning to buy a peg sometime soon.
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2003, 01:06:57 PM »
@Erwin-K:

Heh, I'm at work, posting from Opera in Debian Linux, I use OpenOffice for work documents, and all my software/hardware so far has been created with Linux programs.

Just swapped my 80G harddrive for a 40G that doesn't make as much noise, haven't gotten around to reinstalling XP yet. I won't bother until I find some cool game that doesn't run under Linux again (only thing I've used XP for the last year is games). Noone cares what I use, as long as I do the WORK I should. Isn't that great? ;-)
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Re: Amiga users who don't use graphics cards.
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 05, 2003, 02:32:57 PM »
Hi iamaboringperson,

Count me in for a gfx-less A1200 owner :-)

I only have a hardware for the screen.....scandoubler and flickerfixer or so?
Some hardware-stuff for my modem.
A Blizzard040/40 with SCSI2 and a lot of HD's on it :-) (ofcourse also a CD-ROM and CD-Writer)

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You scare me friend :-D
What's up, what is the last thing you ate before you wrote your comments? :-D:-D

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Good luck with your Peg :-)

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