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Offline Crom00

Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2008, 03:20:19 AM »
Also, Avid was adopted as the non linear edit system for Trek becuase Avid emulated Paramounts tape loggin system in a digital workflow.

 Avid realized having a popluar "evergreen" Show like Star Trek on board as a client was great for credibility.

The Amiga was used under the radar for other takss too, on other shows. I remember a fellow sold me his sunrize 12bit soundcard, he told me how he worked on the set of Cheers recording on set audio directly into an Amiga 3000. He was able to multitask and cut the audio on set where his competitors couldn't touch him in terms of speed.

Told me how the stars were amazed how he was able to clean up the onset vocal audio so well.

Wasn't unitl the late 90's that pc's caught up (in his opinion) for this one special task. He told me there were no latency issues or lag with the Amiga, where the PC wasn't able to reliably handle the task... Until then (late 90's) he hadn't thought about replacing his 3000.

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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2008, 05:45:08 AM »
I disagree ..If they really wanted to drive it home that the graphics look dated then they should have said
"the graphics look like they were made on a Atari"..hehehe..

now that would have really sent the message home.

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What they're trying to say is that the graphics look dated.
And using a computer made by a manufacturer that went out of buisness 14 years ago as an example of dated graphics is good way to do it...

if the statment read "The graphics look like they were made on a Mac" That would not have driven then point across becuase you can actually buy a new Mac, in a real store (not ebay).

I'd still rather have produced 3d graphcis on lightwave 3.5 on my A2000 then Strata studio on a mac, any day...

But I can garuntee the person who penned that review hasn't used either.
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2008, 07:42:10 AM »
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I disagree ..If they really wanted to drive it home that the graphics look dated then they should have said
"the graphics look like they were made on a Atari"..hehehe..



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LOL! Yep, but as we're aware, some folks like to bash the Amiga. Atari has a soft spot with pop culture...

"The graphics look like they were made on an Atari2600"

was always a good jab when dissing graphics.
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2008, 08:06:56 AM »
Doesn't look too bad up against other recent films, e.g. Toonz Animation's horrid attempt at Dragons of Autumn Twilight. Evidence: Caramon ogling Tika's breasts. WTF? They essentially produced an animated version of "Dude, Where's My Dragonlance?" After Jackson's Lord of the Rings adaptation, though, bringing Dragonlance to the big screen looks an awful lot like an also ran. (Actually, it still does. Ralph Bakshi's animated Lord of the Rings kicks all kinds of ass, despite having to listen to "The Greatest Adventure" more times than I care to remember. Got to thank South Park for Lemmiwinks, although that was more of a Hobbit satire.) Wizards should have gone with Dragonlance when they produced the bomb that was Dungeons and Dragons.

In their defense, though, not everyone has the talent and budget of Disney/Pixar.
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2008, 09:43:22 AM »
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Another remembrance,wasn't part of the later Star Trek spinoffs done with Amiga?

NOT using stock A500 I'm sure!


The first season or so of Babylon 5 was done with Lightwave on Amiga hardware. Lots of them I'd guess. ;-)



The jet fighters sequence on Goldeneye was done on the Amiga also. I think it is quite impressive, but most people would not associate that with CGI
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2008, 10:52:53 AM »
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The first season or so of Babylon 5 was done with Lightwave on Amiga hardware.


IIRC, an Amiga did the space backdrop scenes.  I think it was replaced after the first season or second season.  Still that was 1994 which was fourteen years ago.  I would highly doubt any significant studio could afford to use an Amiga today, just too slow.

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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2008, 01:09:16 PM »
i have used lightwave version 9 for PC.  man it is so complicated.  So i use lightwave 5 on Amiga under Winuae.  Fast. Easy to use, great-looking pics, what more do you want
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2008, 02:14:54 PM »
Wow I just watched the trailer and am impressed that the guy things 1 amiga could do all that
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2008, 04:16:08 PM »
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Wow I just watched the trailer and am impressed that the guy things 1 amiga could do all that


Agreed.  It's isn't Pixar but it DOES look cool.

As for the reviewer, I think this is a case of a little fish trying to make a name for himself.  The film won several (5) awards and nominations around the globe!

nuff said!
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2008, 11:17:43 PM »
I think he was simply trying to say the graphics looked so 90's.  The company that produced Amiga has been dead for 15 years and he figured it was a good machine to represent the 90's genre...
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2008, 11:41:17 PM »
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Wow I just watched the trailer and am impressed that the guy things 1 amiga could do all that


Where? :-D
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2008, 06:24:54 AM »
Critics are just that. Critics. They criticize.
A link to the article would have been nice.
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2008, 03:07:50 PM »
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Reagen Sulewski article on boxofficeprophets.com

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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2008, 11:29:55 AM »
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Hey, check out this low blow against Amiga animation in the news today.  Pretty funny.

"...this week also brings us Delgo, which could be a candidate for worst film of the year. A fantasy adventure film from a studio you've never heard of, Delgo tells a story of some lizard looking thing as he goes to stop a conflict between some other strange looking creatures. Some recognizable names have been grabbed for the voice cast, including Freddie Prinze Jr., Val Kilmer, Jennifer Love Hewitt and Chris Kattan (among others), but that appears to be the extent of the budget for the film. The animation looks like something created on an Amiga and the characters themselves are pretty unattractive. All of these factors add up to a major bomb in the works, with about $2 million being probable for its first weekend."


Refer to http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38145/135/
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Offline Crom00

Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2008, 03:40:39 PM »
The clunky characater designs are the real crime here. Looks like something that'd be cool back in 2000/2001 when the project was started.

The character designs look like their creators weren't even sure what they were designing.
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Re: OK, Amiga animation is not state-of-the-art
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 08, 2009, 07:48:24 PM »
Well the Star Wars Clone Wars TV episodes look like something done with a PC in the mid 90s....so if crap looking graphics are OK for George Lucas they are certainly OK for everybody else haha
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