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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2008, 09:27:22 PM »
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Todays Amiga standards seems to be to focus on low performance, overpriced almost home-made hardware


How do you propose we get any more "proffessional" in your opinion hardware shops interested in doing better than what this one company is doing for this market?
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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2008, 09:33:20 PM »
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Personally, none of them. I wouldn't like the Amiga becoming just another x86 box as Apple did with the Mac. I'd rather prefer a more custom and still powerful machine. The Sam440 is IMHO a step in the right decision, I just hope that in the future a more powerful model will be released.


What in particular would you want customized and not the same as a modern PC? What aspects are "too normal" and thus need denormalized and turned into something custom that no one else has? In what ways in particular is SAM440 a step in the right direction, and what changes would take us further in this right direction than SAM does? What changes would take us in wrong directions?

I've got a few ideas on how I myself would approach a system design. I have a degree in computer engineering, work as a chip designer by day, and have absolutely no idea what you want out of your words "custom" or what direction you're referring to by the "right" one.

People, please, if you want something different than a boring everyday x86, please put some effort into what you want, what you mean, why that is, etc. so the people at Acube or wherever have a clue as to what you're going on about. Otherwise they're not very likely to satisfy your custom and nonstandard wishes.
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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2008, 09:41:41 PM »
Simply put, I love my classics and for me, thats where the Amiga story ended. In saying that, I would still like to see what's left of the Amiga handed over to the community as an open source package, so that we, as a community, can decide where to take it. Personally, I'm all for porting it to the readily availiable, cheap and infinately more powerful x86.
 

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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2008, 09:58:56 PM »
fries.....french fries with heinz and onions.
 

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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2008, 10:29:25 PM »
Amiga is dead, has been dead for years...

I want MorphOS 3.0 for the Mac Mini, it's the best 'Amiga' OS...

Until that happens I'm happy with my real Amiga's :P
 

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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2008, 10:31:39 PM »
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DJBase wrote:
fries.....french fries with heinz and onions.


Well we all want that don't we  :-)


I'd like to see a unified Amiga brand, with some real leadership and direction displayed.  Under this brand we’d not only see recognition and support of classics but also a new platform supported (eg SAM).

On the classics front I’d love to see MiniMig marketed properly and expanded to included AGA support (maybe in a cute little retro 1200 case with a DVD instead of a floppy drive ).
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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2008, 11:45:40 PM »
whenever there was a poll, "Pancakes" would always win.  So Pancakes > Amiga.
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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2008, 11:59:45 PM »
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DJBase wrote:
fries.....french fries with heinz and onions.


And I want your shirt, so to speak :-)

Seriously, a dark purple shirt with a large amiga tick on the front and nothing else - who would not want one :-D
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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2008, 07:41:29 PM »
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NovaCoder wrote:
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DJBase wrote:
fries.....french fries with heinz and onions.


Well we all want that don't we  :-)


No, you culture barbarians.
It's fries with mayonaise !
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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2008, 08:09:36 PM »
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What does the community want from the Amiga brand.


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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2008, 08:15:45 PM »
The magic behind the computer was that you could write your own programs and make your own graphics.  The Commodore 64 offered sprites which were easy to move graphics and a simple to use sid chip to make sounds.

The Amiga offered something better but some people found it harder to program.

The problem comes in when you have third party manufacturers gouging the customer base for what PC manufacturers offer for less.

There were magazines teaching programming like RUN, Compute! and Compute!'s Gazette.

Are you telling me that people don't like programming anymore but we want to pay someone else to program for us in vanilla so we can't enjoy programming in color?  Where did all the programming go?  The Amiga was marketed as an Artist's computer and then the magazine Amigaworld dumped that concept for business because they wanted their ad revenue to come from business so they could make business money.

One of the creators of MOS technology is still in business but the problem is that not everyone sees the need for programming, sound or graphics.

The Sid chip could have been upgraded and Sprites could have been upgraded.

I wouldn't care who provided new hardware even if it couldn't compete but you have to have open architecture and you have to open the computer up to programmers.  You have to have sound and you have to have graphics.

If you can't get new hardware from Amiga then this is your last united front to get new hardware from someone else.  But if you want to dump these concepts then get a Mac or an X86 box because you can't compete without a faster processor or money.
 

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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2008, 08:23:17 PM »
I want an open source classic OS. The bits produced after Olaf Barthel ported it all to a Amiga-hosted compilers would be nice, but I'd settle for a mix. ;-)
 

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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2008, 08:47:26 PM »
AROS with fully integrated 68k and PPC emulation. And 10 million $ on my bank account.
 

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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2008, 09:06:26 PM »
From the Amiga brand I would like the AmigaOS to continue to OS 5 and beyond and for hardware to slowly but surely catch up to the current PC/Mac levels

I don't really want x86 architecture I like the Amiga having its own identity. A more powerful SAM board in the future would be great or anything along those lines.
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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2008, 09:46:38 PM »
What would I want from the BRAND.....

Good question...

I guess what I'd like is for the current owners to f*** up and die....

Then have it bought by people who actually gave a rats about what the name meant, and what it still means to a whole bunch of folks...  and maybe do something with it we could respect.
 

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Re: So what does the community want
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 02, 2008, 09:59:18 PM »
Peace on Earth!

Then,

Natami

MoprhOS released for all MacMini's

SAMflex released with AmigaOS4.x at a reasonable cost

Completion of the Clone-A to run the Minimig core at 100% Amiga compatibility

And for next year (Ha, like all, or any of the above will be done in the next 4 weeks),

Redesign of the Minimig to reduce the size further and fit it into the base of a high quality joystick and have it commercially sold to hundreds of thousands, which would get us maybe 5 new people interested in becoming regular Amiga users.

MorphOS released for ALL PPC G4 & G5 Mac computers fully optimized to take advantage of the G5 and multiple cores & CPUs.

Having Amiga Inc. realize that they have done nothing for the Amiga community, and that their efforts have nothing to do with, or are in any way related to the Amiga.  Then have them give up on their lawsuits, admit that Hyperion is now the legal owner of the AmigaOS and IP, decide to change their name and move on to their eventual bankruptcy and collapse.

Having the Hyperion & AmigaOS4.x team realize that porting to the PPC Mac's is the quickest, easiest and most powerful solution for future AmigaOS4.x hardware, until they have time to port to x86/64bit.

OR,

Having the Natami become so powerful and fast and able to use modern storage and interface, networking components, that all AmigaOS4.x and MorphOS2.x and Classic Amiga users will come together behind one platform and create new, exciting applications, games and utilities, like the good old days.
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)