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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2008, 04:16:01 PM »
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I don't agree. The A1200 is a nice machine, but it was too little, too late and therefor definitely not the best thing that happened to the amiga.


Well yea they made a few mistakes with A1200, but it still was a nice machine. At the time they could easily have gone with a faster CPU maybe even a 68040 with a socket later to be ugradeable with 68060 and put simm slots inside the machine. This would have brought the price up quite a bit, but I think it would have been worth it. They should have also gone with a more traditional monitor output as the use of TV as a display had been long since forgotten + 50 and 60Hz monitors makes your eyes bleed ;)
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2008, 04:19:05 PM »
I've got to side with those who said New Tek and the Toaster were the best thing that happened.  The Toaster provided the means to take the Amiga to professional settings that would have been impossible to crack otherwise.  Apple became noted for desktop publishing, the Amiga for desktop video.  Unfortunately the market wasn't large enough to sustain the sales needed to keep the company going.

The worst thing, CBM's marketing efforts which tended to confuse the public.  You want a computer that's easy to use and CBM's marketing message that the next door kid was the only one smart enough to use it was, according to many, offputting!


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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2008, 04:58:21 PM »
@ tone007,

Absolutely. *WE*, the consumer, were the best thing to ever happen to the Amiga. Too bad we are always the minority  :-(


 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2008, 05:04:28 PM »
I'd say the A500, Multitasking computing for the masses :-)
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2008, 08:14:05 PM »
Indivision AGA for my 1200..thanks Jens :pint:  :-D
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2008, 08:27:41 PM »
Best thing that ever happened on my Amiga?

Free BBS porn!

Yeah, going from 1200bps to 2400bps modem was AWSEOME!!!

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2008, 09:56:02 PM »
The absolute manic obsession of the early adopters of the Amiga. Creating at the time some of the most amazing tools for the creative computer user, but only possible because of the genius of Jay Miner and the other original developers. Nowadays technology leaps are rare especially if you forget the Internet.
Amiga 1000/3000, iMica Silent and NVidia Aros computer.
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2008, 10:20:46 PM »
Quake for the Amiga was one of the best things. Well I really enjoyed it anyway. :-)
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2008, 10:22:14 PM »
WHDLOAD
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2008, 10:23:19 PM »
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save2600 wrote:
@ tone007,

Absolutely. *WE*, the consumer, were the best thing to ever happen to the Amiga. Too bad we are always the minority  :-(




I don't think we were a minority I just think we preferred to use Dcopy or Xcopy than to actually buy the games
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2008, 10:37:07 PM »
A3000..... The only stock Amiga you can plug any Monitor into and plenty of upgrade options.
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2008, 12:59:10 AM »
Best things: Commodore buyout of Amiga (Atari wanted to rape Amiga for its technology).  Release of Amiga 2000 for professionals, release of amiga 500 (for gamers, and other end users), release of Amiga 3000 (SCSI, flicker fixer, fast memory access, compared to A2000).  
Worst things: Amiga1200/4000 (only b/c too little too late - blame Commodore).
Piracy (it killed software development back then and is doing the same today - i see and hear all a.org comments regarding OS4 hacking when i say this.  hyperion must hate to see this.)
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2008, 01:24:33 AM »
Bloodline could not have put it better.



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Piracy (it killed software development back then and is doing the same today - i see and hear all a.org comments regarding OS4 hacking when i say this.)


Not trying to go OT here, but you are joking right? If that really was the case, why didn't software development die off for other, dare I say, more successful platforms? Are you sure poor decision making and lackluster hardware development from Commodore didn't play a far more significant role?
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2008, 03:48:08 AM »
I agree with Adz.

I personally do not condone Piracy, BUT... Piracy is the lamest excuse ever for why people think hardware companies fail. Software piracy is nothing new to any computer. In fact, from both gaming and productivity standpoints, I'd say that, if anything - piracy has HELPED hardware sales more than it has hurt. The C64 & iPod quickly come to mind. The pittance of money a manufacturer gets from software licensing fees (unless we're talking about iPod numbers) is easily overshadowed by poor company management and horrible business decisions (like competing with yourself by introducing too many lines).

Only a failed Executive would blame piracy on why their company operated so poorly.    
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2008, 04:54:45 AM »
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... Piracy is the lamest excuse ever for why people think hardware companies fail.  


Exactly... if that were true the Mac,PC, Ipod and Wii would be a failures as piracy is rampant on those leading brands. I saw more Mac and PC software copying than I ever saw on the Amiga. Matter of fact it's this ability to bring copies of work software home that many folks I knew bought a PC or Mac.

Amiga folk I knew got one becuase it was cool, not becuase I can just copy stuff from work or school. The sofware was priced reasonable compared to PC and Macs too.

 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #29 from previous page: November 19, 2008, 05:11:20 AM »
I still think piracy has some share of problems.  People buy hardware because of software applications.  If developer feels efforts will be pirated, he/she will move away from platform (iospirit for example).  Amiga market has been dwindling (getting smaller) late 80s to early 90s till today.  This meant that software sales were more critical at amiga platform than mac or pc.  Fewer amiga users, mean smaller platform, mean greater need to recover or make $ to sustain themselves in business.  making every sale count (after commodore's demise, how many companies can honestly make enough to live off amiga?)

Commodore: well i did mention that in my opinion A1200/4000 came too late and gave too little (should have been released more like 1989/90 not 92/93, with scsi and flicker fixers built in - connecting to TV was no longer cool but optional).
of course don't blame the few engineers left at commodore, but the management for not providing enough resources (people, money) :roll:
remember, Dave Haynie, in Deathbed Vigil or some other video talk about working on multiple projects and only one of them being approved by management? (lack of focus, management not understanding what they have).
imho of course :-D

I'll say the bad were 80% Commodore, 15% piracy, 5% pc taking over the world (remember apple also went out of business at one point). :lol: of course Commodore made pcs too, which is why i say pc 5% (pc compatibles).