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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #44 from previous page: November 19, 2008, 10:47:21 AM »
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I noticed you had a SAM440ep in your signature. Mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of. :)

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2008, 10:53:41 AM »
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I noticed you had a SAM440ep in your signature. Mental illness is nothing to be ashamed of. :)


Ahh... because I said that I will not buy a SAM a couple of months ago (in a thread here). :-D

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2008, 10:56:34 AM »
So you DONT have a SAMiga?
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2008, 11:01:59 AM »
Yes I have of course. :-)
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2008, 11:04:52 AM »
Is it the best thing that happened for the Amiga in recent history? :) (AROS may be the next from what i can tell.)
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2008, 12:37:58 PM »
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2008, 02:43:32 PM »
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Well yea they made a few mistakes with A1200, but it still was a nice machine.

Being it a nice machine is not relevant. I have an A1200 as my main Amiga and I love it. But it is by far not the best thing that happened to the Amiga.

The A500 has been mentioned in this thread, as has been the videotoaster. Both of them I can accept as being extremely important milestones for the Amiga as a computing platform. The A1200 isn't. Without the A1200, Amigacomputers would still be loved as cultmachines from the past as much as they are loved now.

Without the A500, the Amiga would hardly have existed as a viable computing platform during the late eighties/early nineties.

Same for the videotoaster. Without it, the Amiga would not have had a fraction of the amount of succes in the videoediting business as it has had.
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2008, 04:31:50 PM »
A500 and demoscene are the best things that happened to amiga.

The worst things: the ultra-expensive A3000 (they could have redesigned the original custom chips to also output screens at 31Khz instead of inventing kludges like Amber to re-use the old chips used in A500/A2000. They could have put a proper scsi chip, they could have included IDE, they could have provided a decent case with space for 5 1/4 units and a beefier PSU, it should have had more colours. They could have added simm sockets instead of ultra expensive ZIPs.
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2008, 07:27:57 PM »
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A500 and demoscene are the best things that happened to amiga.

The worst things: the ultra-expensive A3000 (they could have redesigned the original custom chips to also output screens at 31Khz instead of inventing kludges like Amber to re-use the old chips used in A500/A2000. They could have put a proper scsi chip, they could have included IDE, they could have provided a decent case with space for 5 1/4 units and a beefier PSU, it should have had more colours. They could have added simm sockets instead of ultra expensive ZIPs.


These are, IMO, crap opinions.  The closed up console-like case design of the A500 kept people from bothering to expand it, and it hobbled Amiga development for years. It was the target platform and nobody bothered to upgrade, except for those dreadful little trapdoor 512k expansions, so no-one bothered to develop beyond it.  As to the demoscene?  Those guys will code for TI calculators.  The nature of the hardware doesn't really matter.  I doubt very seriously if anyone purchased an Amiga based on how many passive animations with loopy techno music behind them they could watch.  :roll: :roll: :roll:

The A3000 was so "bad" that Sun begged C= to let them license build them as their next-gen Unix boxes.  IDE was {bleep}e at the time compared to SCSI, the 31khz output on the 3000 should've gone to all Amiga models, the Amber was brilliant.  Zip chips were still quite common when the 3000 was designed, as well.

No, the 3000 was quite superior to any other Amiga, and was the last "balls-out" design the C= engineering team was allowed and funded to create.  Everything else was a cheap, cut-down compromise afterward.
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2008, 08:30:19 PM »
CU Amiga Magazine

I find myself buying these off the Internet, it is such a nicely layed out great magazine, probably the best computer magazine of any platform ever.

The death of CU marked the death of the Amiga as a mainstream platform (in terms of user base)



Nowadays "Macworld" reminds me of CU, but it doesn't come close

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2008, 10:27:03 PM »
Best thing: the 500.
Worst thing: Medhi Ali.

CU? Good call! And not only because I used to freelance for 'em.  But I'd prefer Amiga Computing (and not only because I used to freelance for them)
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2008, 11:03:23 PM »
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These are, IMO, crap opinions.  The closed up console-like case design of the A500 kept people from bothering to expand it, and it hobbled Amiga development for years. It was the target platform and nobody bothered to upgrade, except for those dreadful little trapdoor 512k expansions, so no-one bothered to develop beyond it. [. . .]


Just to counter this statement factually:  There were tons of sidecar expansions for the 500.  GVP had plenty, as did other manufacturers, and the prices weren't unreasonable.

The only thing is that some of the hackish internal expansions were even more reasonable (no need for custom plastics or large PCBs to seat the edge-connector, just use wire-wrap sockets and slide in under the 68000 or whatnot), and the 500 was a budget machine, so maybe that's what some users remember...

The fact that game developers catered to unexpanded systems was sort of a separate problem, since any platform will have  nontechnical users who won't expand their machines.  In retrospect, marketing the 500+ as some sort of sweeping "second generation!" hardware to target (instead of "just another 500") might've kept some momentum, but that's getting off-topic.

Edit: See Apple putting "incrementally" improved hardware in a different case every few years for a good example of that kind of momentum.  They have so many product releases that people who still have white plastic kind of understand that they won't have as much software support as if they had shiny metal.
 

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2008, 11:29:18 PM »
Best thing
Amiga Inc folding and the judge awarding Hyperion full control over AmigaOS

Oh, wait that hasn't happened....yet!

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2008, 01:17:51 AM »
Best - Umm maybe Aminet and the universities who have hosted it. Now if Aminet would have taken my advice (years ago) and added a porn section it would be indisputable.

http://aminet.net/pix/porno/ sadly does not exist today.

Still I think it is keystone, holding the culture together, in the post BBS era.

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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2008, 01:25:52 AM »
Best Thing: Bill McEwen.

Worst Thing: Bill McEwen.


Man's made me laugh so hard for the past 10 years or so and made me realize how ignorant I was, spending all this money I had on a dead platform.

Considering all the laughs and jokes I've had at his expense, not to mention his "business etiquette", I figure it was money well spent. :lol:
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Re: What was the best thing that ever happened to the Amiga? Any era.
« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2008, 01:33:20 AM »
Gotta admit Bill's press releases are funny.  It took me a while to realise he was a comedian.

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