My hard disk is still alive!! but ...

[kvasir]

Hello again, got back from work a few hours ago, and figured I'd check this thread (since I checked the notification option and got a ton of e-mail about it :-D) Nce to see everything got hammered out, and I hope disksalv works for you! I would have checked earlier, but my wife found "I want a hippopotomus for christmas" on youtube, and I spent 2 hours using the latest getvideo script on Aminet and FFMPEG to convert it into .mp3 so she can play it for my daughter. I'm guessing thats 2 hours I'll soon regret spending.... Just wanted to mention how great it is to see Amiga users unite and support each other like this. :-D Anyway, I've been to Valletta, Malta in 2001, had a blast there. Still the party island I (barely) remember it as?

[sim085]

Thanks A4000_Mad and kvasir for all the help given. I have played with DiskSalv2 a little and with salvage I managed to backup all the files I had on hd2. I then used the repair option and hd2 was emptied. I copied the files I previously backed up and things seem to be working again So thank you very much. Also I learnt how to make transfers from PC to Amiga using floppy disks Thank You!

[A4000_Mad]

Hi sim085 & kvasir

Been out all day but thought I'd drop by by before hitting the hay :-)


@ sim085

Glad you managed to save all your data 8-)

To avoid geting jumbled up file names you might want to put fat95 in Workbench:L and use MS0 instead of PC0.....




Compare the contents of the same floppy using PC0 (top) and MS0 (bottom).....




You might also be interested to see how the same floppy disk looks in OS3.9.....



G'night :pint:

[sim085]

Does fat95 come with Workbench 3.1? Or I have to download it from somewhere in order to have it available for Workbench 2.4? (like I did for disksav2).

Also is it possible to move some files from the Amiga to the PC using this method? At the moment I am at work so cannot really see of fat95 is already in my Workbench L directory!

[zipper]

No, you have to get it from Aminet:
http://aminet.net/disk/misc/fat95.lha

[A4000_Mad]

sim085 wrote:

is it possible to move some files from the Amiga to the PC using this method?

Yes indeed! You would initially use the method of transfer that you have just learned to get the files fat95 snd MS0 into your Amiga.

[sim085]

Oki, I will try this when I get back home Thanks

[sim085]

Hi, I am back home and (obviously) I tried to copy FAT95.lha to my A500+. Now I have two problems (questions).

The first one is where do I find MH0.lha? I tried searching on google and did not find it. Or this one is already in FAT95.lha?

Also, I am ashamed of asking this; but what do I do when I move the lha file on the Amiga. Last time (in some way) DevSave2 came listed under a list of programs and I used it like that. I doubled clicked on the FAT95.lha and a document opens to tell me about the compression or something. But how do I extract its content!! Last time I must have done something by mistake. I was under the impression that I only had to move the .lha file on the amiga to have the program!

[A4000_Mad]

Hi sim085

Firstly note that things are going to look quite different in your Amiga than in the screenshots I have taken with OS3.9.


I did wonder how you previously managed to unpack the DiskSalv11_32.lha file. I was expecting you to report that it had a jumbled up file name when viewed on the floppy with your Amiga, and would have told you to drag it into Ram and rename it correctly.

where do I find MS0.lha? I tried searching on google and did not find it. Or this one is already in FAT95.lha?  

There is no file called MS0.lha. The file FAT95.LHA unpacks to give a drawer called fat95. Other drawers and files including MS0 are inside the created drawer called fat95...............



My suggested way to proceed is:-

1. Use DirectoryOpus to check that you have a file called LHA in Workbench:C (If not present you will have to get it from possibly Aminet and put it in)

2. Use your PC0 method of floppy disk transfer to get the file FAT95.LHA into Ram of your Amiga. If it appears to just vanish when you drag and drop it into Ram, go back to my previous post that begins with "Workbench has hidden files as with Windoze". Rename FAT95.LHA correctly if its name is jumbled up when you look at it in Ram.


In the drawer Workbench:System you should find an icon called Shell or CLI. This is like the command line in Windoze which you used previously to format the 720K floppy disk with your PC.

3. Double click on the Shell or CLI icon and at the command line type:-

cd Ram: and press the Enter key

(cd stands for Current Directory)

4. Now type:-

lha x -a FAT95.LHA and press the Enter key.................



Immediately after pressing Enter you should see a fast scrolling list of files that are being extracted out of FAT95.LHA

5. Close your Ram window then re-open it again and you should see a created drawer called fat95.

6. Get the file fat95 and put it in Workbench:L and get MS0 and put it in Workbench:Storage/DOSDrivers (if you have a Workbench:Devs/DOSDrivers drawer, then putting it in there would get MS0 activated every time you start your Amiga. If not, just double click on MS0 in Workbench:Storage/DOSDrivers when you want it activated (You can actually put MS0 in any drawer you like in your hard drive and it will still work when double clicked).

You could of course use your DirectoryOpus to get these files and put them in the correct locations. You'll find the file fat95 at the location Ram:fat95/l and you'll find MS0 in Ram:fat95/english

 :-)

[sim085]

Hi A4000_Mad,

Sorry for the late reply. I have been trying working on this but cannot get it right. When I insert the disk in the amiga drive I get the following error immediately;

Error Validating
File allocation table
in device PC0
Results uncertain
Proceed at your own risk

I press the ok button and then open directoryopus. In directory opus I access PC0 without any problems. I then try to move the file FAT95.lha on Workbench. Each time I get the following error;

MSDOS 5.0
has a read error
on disk block 270
Error = 23
Block not found

After pressing cancel for sometime the file actually get transferred with the same size. I thought this was fine. However when I try to extract the data using the lha tool I have in Workbench/C I get an error that it could not extract the contents of FAT95.lha

Something stranger is that when I tried to move disksave2 I had everything in scrambled text and now everything is in clear text? Even the disk displayed on Workbench (the icon) is clearly labelled as MSDOS5.0!

[A4000_Mad]

"Sorry for the late reply". Now worries, Amigans are used to waiting for years ;-)

Sounds like your floppy disk has got corrupted. I suggest you either try again with a different floppy disk or format the same one again with your PC or your Amiga. To do it with the Amiga click on the icon MSDOS5.0, hold down the right mouse button and under the heading 'Icons' at the top of the Workbench screen select 'Format disk...'

If you are given the option of doing a 'Format' or a 'Quick format' I would choose 'Format'.

[sim085]

Hi,

I tried to format the disk from the amiga as you suggested but immediately I get the error 'couldn't format cylinder 0'.

I tried to format another floppy disk from windows using the method you previously suggested. Everything works fine on windows (so the floppy seems to be ok). But as soon as I try insert the floppy in the amiga I start getting the errors mentioned above.

Also I still can't understand how come I no longer get scrambled text when I insert the floppy in the Amiga drive! If it is seeing the disk as MSD5.0 then it seems that FAT95 has already been installed right!? or?

I do not know; but the disk started to be displayed in clear text after I moved the original FAT95.lha on Workbench and these errors started to appear after that. Could it be that I have some auto install if that even exsisted back then!

[A4000_Mad]

Hi sim085

Sorry I'm late but I knew this would require some serious free time for playing with my computers :-D

I've just been through the whole thing myself to check it out. I'd never actually got around to putting tape over the hole on a 1.44MB floppy, so I started by doing that and using the command Format A: /t:90 /n:9 in Windoze XP to format it to 720K (works a treat :-))

Next I downloaded the file FAT95.LHA from Aminet, put it onto the floppy disk and took it to my A4000.



1. After inserting the disk and getting an unreadable icon, I opened up Workbench:Storage/DOSDrivers and double clicked on the icon PC0.

If it is seeing the disk as MSD5.0 then it seems that FAT95 has already been installed right!? or?

Wrong it would seem. I also got a floppy disk icon named MSDOS5.0 on my Workbench screen which has CrossDos written on it. So, getting an icon called MSDOS5.0 is *not* an indication that fat95 is installed. (It is the driver PC0 which uses the CrossDoSFileSystem in Workbench:L)  

I've always installed fat95 by simply putting the single file of the same name into the L drawer of Workbench. Its file size is 26488 and you can easily look with your DirectoryOpus to see if it is in there.

2. I dragged the file FAT95.LHA into Ram.

3. I opened up a Shell and typed:-

cd Ram: and pressed the Enter key.

followed by typing:-

lha x -a FAT95.LHA and pressing the Enter key.



4. I closed my Ram window and then opened it again to see the newly created drawer called fat95 (You may need to select 'Clean up' from the menus at the top of the screen to bring it into view). Inside the fat95 drawer was a drawer called english.

5. I went in the drawer called english and just double clicked on the icon MS0. This made another icon for the same floppy disk appear which was named 5C14-CDBF and had a Windows logo on it, so everything had worked perfectly 8-)

After pressing cancel for sometime

I believe that repeatedly clicking cancel was just telling the Amiga to skip what it couldn't read and move on to the next part that it couldn't read properly. Repeatedly clicking on 'Retry' would probably have been the better way to go. But don't bother mate as I still think it is a problem with your floppy disk. Try formatting others with your PC and make sure that you don't spell FAT95.LHA wrongly in the Shell command line of your Amiga. I only missed out the dot and was was told "Unable to open archive!" "Operation failed".



P.S.

Decided to go through it again with an A4000 running OS3.1. This should be nearer to what you are seeing with your own Amiga :-)




:pint:

[sim085]

Thanks for your detailed reply. I am sorry I took long to put a reply ... I did not realise you had replied!! ... I will try it again (already noticed a minor difference from what I was doing) and let you know Thanks again.

[sim085]

A: /t:90 /n:9

The /t:90 should be /t:80 or? In a previous post I think it was /t:80. I thought maybe that was the mistake, but when I try using /t:90 on Windows I get an error; something wrong parameters.

[_ThEcRoW]

Do you have os4 classic onyour 4000, a4000_mad?
Nice backdrop.