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Re: What would an Amiga be today?
« Reply #74 from previous page: September 01, 2008, 12:17:15 PM »
The way I remember it, (here in Aus).

C= released the A1200 to which the public responded with general apathy. PCs were already dominating the display area in major retail chains.  In the one of the few stores that still stocked Amiga stuff, a single A1200 was shoved into a poorly lit corner while PCs of all flavours were displayed on island displays under lights in the main area.  This was while C= were still around.

Later they released the CD32 which was largely ignored by retail, one chain stocked it for about 3 months then it mysteriously disappeared of shelves.  This was about a year before C= folded.

I think the Amiga hardware platform was already on its knees long before C= died, here in Aus at least.

If C= had brought out a Amiga branded x86 PC back then all they wouldve done is alienate the Amiga crowd and been another expensive branded PC clone.

Despite Amiga hardware tech' being great in its day, it just couldnt keep up with PC technology once it had gained momentum.
 

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Re: What would an Amiga be today?
« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2008, 06:37:24 PM »
The more things change....

We went from cpu doing everything to Amiga coprocessing back to "soft" cpu control of everything and now we're back to...

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/08/31/analysis-generic-pc-audio-turns
 

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Re: What would an Amiga be today?
« Reply #76 on: September 08, 2008, 01:23:02 PM »
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persia wrote:
A more interesting question is would any of us actually be interested in a modern Amiga?  The Amiga is part of an Elvis Presley/Marilyn Monroe world.  It died young and better than anything out there.  Or Perhaps James Dean.  At any rate, the Amiga we know and love is frozen in time, it's a solid '80s computer in what is almost the '10s..

Would any of us love an Amiga that ran on eight core Xeon chips, had a BSD base, required at least 2 GB of RAM  and used 512 Meg NVidia GForce 9500 video cards?  Isn't part of the charm of the Amiga that we use last century ideas like Megabytles of RAM, hard disks smaller than a DVD and floppy disks?


That's one of the best posts i have ever read on the subject, and exactly what i feel about the Amiga, too.



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The way I remember it, (here in Aus).

C= released the A1200 to which the public responded with general apathy. PCs were already dominating the display area in major retail chains. In the one of the few stores that still stocked Amiga stuff, a single A1200 was shoved into a poorly lit corner while PCs of all flavours were displayed on island displays under lights in the main area. This was while C= were still around.

Later they released the CD32 which was largely ignored by retail, one chain stocked it for about 3 months then it mysteriously disappeared of shelves. This was about a year before C= folded.

I think the Amiga hardware platform was already on its knees long before C= died, here in Aus at least.

If C= had brought out a Amiga branded x86 PC back then all they wouldve done is alienate the Amiga crowd and been another expensive branded PC clone.

Despite Amiga hardware tech' being great in its day, it just couldnt keep up with PC technology once it had gained momentum.


Same here in Germany. It started with Wing Commander and Gunship 2000, and when a friend of mine and me were watching Wing Commander II on a 386 Machine, everything was clear.

The games for the x86 machines were definitely sexier at that time than the ones for the Amigas we owned, so we had to get PCs. I would say the prime reasons were 256 colours on screen (VGA), and harddrives, which the Amigas didn't have. That's all.

AGA  and built in harddrives two years earlier, and the Amiga wouldn't have been toast that early..
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Re: What would an Amiga be today?
« Reply #77 on: September 09, 2008, 01:20:56 PM »
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coldfish wrote:
People forget that the real reasons for the platform failing wasn't just C=, but weakening consumer demand and greater competition from other platforms.
 
After the multi-platform confusion of the 80s many consumers and businesses wanted a platform they could be relatively confident would be a "safe-bet" for future upgrades and software.  
The Amiga's complex closed architecture prevented it from being this product.

I doubt the Amiga platform would exist even if C= was still around.  I suspect C= would be a PC brand like Dell or HP and the Amiga platform would be much the same as it is a present, minus the A1 and Amiga Inc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hombre_chipset

PA-RISC 7150(includes SIMD multimedia instructions)+Hombre 3D chipset+Windows NT on a game console? CBM's XBOX 1994/1995... @PA-71x0 can decode and  play MPEG video at a rate of ~30 frames/second without the need for a special DSP.

PA-RISC's successor is Intel Itanium...

Imagines CBM’s "XBOX" vs Sony’s PS1...

PA-RISC 7100 includes instruction fusion i.e. bundle related instruction together, thus increasing the number of instruction issue per cycle.

Later, AMD K7/K8 Athlon, AMD K10 Phenom, Intel Core 2, IBM PowerPC 970 includes instruction fusion/bundling..
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