What would an Amiga be today?

[ZeBeeDee]

Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

ZeBeeDee wrote:

You can use it, I won't copyright it lol

I already did, when ADZ used his special powers in that thread :lol:

Dammit! Foiled again!  :lol:

[uncharted]

Tension wrote:
That`s easy - It would be the PS3 without a shadow of a doubt.

The PS3 is the CD32 taken to it`s natural conclusion.

The ultimate incompetent, botched console launch?  :roll:

[ZeBeeDee]

uncharted wrote:
The ultimate incompetent, botched console launch?  :roll:

Sounds a whole lot like Escom and Gateway when they had their claws in the  Miggy

[amigadave]

pan1k wrote:

70% people could use a "notepad" for writing a documents, 15% could use FinalWriter from 1995 for putting the tables and pictures and basic formatting of fonts, rest could use PageStream 3.0.

I still use FinalWriter '97 and Pagestream. It does the job.. and loads VERY fast on an '060.

My Dad just wrote to me and my sister for advice about getting a new computer.  He is 78 now and did not get a computer until I gave him an A3000 some time around 1998 or so.  He used it for about a year before it became necessary for him to get a Windows computer to share files with his work and friends and better Internet access.  He then bought an eMachine (can't remember the specs) that he still uses today and I loaded FinalWriter for Windows on it for him as he was familiar with FinalWriter 97 on the A3000.

Well now that he wants a new computer he is concerned that his Family Tree software and his word processor (FinalWriter) won't work on the new computer.  I told him to go to WalMart or Costco and buy a new computer as that would probably be the best bang for his buck and satisfy his computing needs, but he has a local shop that wants to build him a computer.  I am afraid that they are going to gouge him with an out of date machine for a middle of the road price.  He did not like my suggestion of going with a Dell as he had heard stories of bad reliability.

[quarkx]

If you take a serious look at what Commodore had for partnerships at the time, You would have seen that HP was their biggest supporter,and had a agreement over Hombre to use in the HP lowend workstations. If CBM could have stayed alive even just 2 more years,HP would have eventually bought them out or taken over. The Amiga would have probably be dropped from HP's consumer line, but evolved into HP's Work Station line, running NT and HP-Unix as OS's. I doubt that little more than the name would have survived to this day, with cost reduction measures dropping the Zorro slots in favor of ISA to PCI etc. Many of the processes and such might have survived to this day, but it would still just have been a fawn memory in HP's past.

[ZeBeeDee]

@ amigadave

My suggestion? Take your father to Walmart and/or Costco and let him get a feel for the various machines on offer. Find out which one he likes best and feels comfortable with.

Perhaps a laptop might be the way to go.

[niklasni1]

pan1k wrote:
I think it would closely resemble an SGI. Custom high end graphic chipset, fast I/O bus and a unix-based OS.

... and bankrupt.

Then maybe revived as a Linux on x86 vendor.

[dammy]

I'd say C= would have merged in Amiga with x86 line.  You would probably have seen C= x86 SMP machines running either/both AOS-SMP and some flavor of Linux early on with nVidia gfx cards for the big boxes, C= x86 laptops and Walmart level x86 or ARM wedges for ultra low end.

Dammy

[alexh]

Commodore eh? Aren't they the company who make the internet ready Eva-Clean(TM) virtual reality groinal attachments?

Their original "Boing ya Balls" model having been recalled due to in field malfunctions which resulted in a multi-billion dollar law suit.

[Psy]

uncharted wrote:

Tension wrote:
That`s easy - It would be the PS3 without a shadow of a doubt.

The PS3 is the CD32 taken to it`s natural conclusion.

The ultimate incompetent, botched console launch?  :roll:

Sorry you can't beat Sega's incompetence during the North American launch of Sega Saturn.  Sega's surprised launched caught retailers, developers and Sega fans totally off guard.  Lets not forget this is also around the time Sega launched the Sega Nomad with zero marketing.

[ZeBeeDee]

alexh wrote:
Commodore eh? Aren't they the company who make the internet ready Eva-Clean(TM) virtual reality groinal attachments?

Their original "Boing ya Balls" model having been recalled to to in field malfunctions which resulted in a multi-billion dollar law suit.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

[kreciu]

amigadave wrote:

pan1k wrote:

70% people could use a "notepad" for writing a documents, 15% could use FinalWriter from 1995 for putting the tables and pictures and basic formatting of fonts, rest could use PageStream 3.0.

I still use FinalWriter '97 and Pagestream. It does the job.. and loads VERY fast on an '060.

My Dad just wrote to me and my sister for advice about getting a new computer.  He is 78 now and did not get a computer until I gave him an A3000 some time around 1998 or so.  He used it for about a year before it became necessary for him to get a Windows computer to share files with his work and friends and better Internet access.  He then bought an eMachine (can't remember the specs) that he still uses today and I loaded FinalWriter for Windows on it for him as he was familiar with FinalWriter 97 on the A3000.

Well now that he wants a new computer he is concerned that his Family Tree software and his word processor (FinalWriter) won't work on the new computer.  I told him to go to WalMart or Costco and buy a new computer as that would probably be the best bang for his buck and satisfy his computing needs, but he has a local shop that wants to build him a computer.  I am afraid that they are going to gouge him with an out of date machine for a middle of the road price.  He did not like my suggestion of going with a Dell as he had heard stories of bad reliability.

So, the described problem is software not a hardware.

Someone is "making" us  (makes us jerks - is it write spelling?) to change hardware (than software) since the text is written Office 2003 is not compatible with the text written in Office 2007 (or FinalWriter), and this programs are not compatible (of course!) with any "Amiga" writing programs.

BTW. Think about any crappy format you want... music, video or pictures etc.

Please do not focus on text. I know that I don't have to change computer to run Office 2007... :crazy:

Nobody cares about user, thay just make money on people. What the Office 2007 cost like $200 (and 100000 people work for that crap) but Hollywood and Page Stream cost $100 each and only couple of guys work on that?

Just compare this software, functionality.  :roll:

Sure there are "some" compatibility patches...

[ZeBeeDee]

kreciu wrote:
Someone is "making" us

Nobody is 'making' you ... YOU see it, YOU want it, YOU buy it ...

It's called supply and demand ... the more people want, the more the companies will strive to deliver the goods.

[Terse]

quarkx wrote:
If you take a serious look at what Commodore had for partnerships at the time, You would have seen that HP was their biggest supporter,and had a agreement over Hombre to use in the HP low end workstations. If CBM could have stayed alive even just 2 more years,HP would have eventually bought them out or taken over. The Amiga would have probably be dropped from HP's consumer line, but evolved into HP's Work Station line, running NT and HP-Unix as OS's. I doubt that little more than the name would have survived to this day, with cost reduction measures dropping the Zorro slots in favor of ISA to PCI etc.

I agree 100%.  CBM would eventually have merged with someone larger unless they happened to get as technologically lucky a 3rd time as they did when they acquired Amiga and M.O.S. at just the right moments.  Even then, this new direction may not have been towards a newer/better PC. Remember how they wanted to control a share of the calculator market by buying M.O.S. but coincidentally found themselves on the verge of a strong position in the home computer market? With their position in the market they may have attempted to gain some video technology and lucked into buying (for example) an up and coming cell phone technology.
It's also possible that had they lived they would have found a way to leverage some of their existing patents and produced their revenue by leeching off the rest of the industry.  That's how some companies operate today.

Given that all non-x86 consumer PC systems are now gone it's a fair bet that Commodore/Amiga would have merged and faded into a larger entity.  Like quarkx above says - it would not be surprising to see a larger name use their brand marks in one or two lines of computers.  Sort of like HP still uses Compaq's name today.

[NovaCoder]

I'd like to think that it would been split 3 ways.

1) Some kind of small cheap low-powered but inovative console/mini-computer for gamers (like the Wii) that could run all the classic stuff.
2) A high-end graphics WS.
3) A X86 based OS.

Then again if they hadn't wasted so much time and money on getting into the PC market who knows, they might be more like Apples :-D  

[DigitalQ]

I am certain that the Amiga would have devolved back into a video game console, as it was originally intended to be.