Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?

[A4000_Mad]

One of THESE could easily receive ADF files from your PC and write them to floppy disk for your A500+ :-)

(It's the way I'd go anyway :pint:)

[countzero]

sim085 wrote:
I would be interested to later on buy the 3.9 version as well. At AmigaKit it seems the 3.1 Workbench is not for sale.

Forget about the 3.9. You need at least a 020 accelerator card with 4mb+ RAM for that. And it will crawl on such a system (a 040 or 060 processor recommended), and it won't deliver you anything exciting if you just want to play old games.

Your best bet for 3.1 is ebay probably.

[sim085]

Is there an 060 accelerator card for the A500+?

Yes for now I was only going to install the Workbench 3.1.

btw - doesn't the Amiga Forever package include all the Workbench developed so far? If so then how could I install the Workbench version that come with such a package on my Amiga? Only by using a parallel cable?

[countzero]

sim085 wrote:
Is there an 060 accelerator card for the A500+?

Erm, no. I was not talking with A500 in mind. However, it's technically possible if you get one of those A500 tower kits which give A2000 processor slot, and a 060 for A2000. A Franken solution.

[mpiva]

If you can compress the ADF to less than 720k then you can copy it to a PC formated disk and plug it into the Amiga.  Then, provided you have enough free RAM, you can uncompress the file back into an ADF onto the Ram Disk and use a utility to write the ADF to a regular Amiga disk.

In some sense, it's easier than trying to setup a network connection between the PC and the Amiga. But if you're planning on doing this a lot, I'd spend the extra time setting up the network connection.  I would save you time in the long run.

[Nlandas]

gertsy wrote:
 
BTW: You cannot format 750KB PC disks on WinXP or above.

Basically if you just want to play a few Amiga 500 games on a standard 1MB amiga 500 you need an Amiga Buddy with a Hard Drive and CD Rom Amiga to create the A500 Games for you from your PC files. Thats the easiest.

Yes, you can format 720K floppies still on the PC.

The command is -

FORMAT A: /T:80 /N:9

   Of course that won't help transferring files larger than 720K over unless they can be zipped to be small enough.

There are several solutions already listed but this info. might be useful to others.

[amigaksi]

>Is it possible to convert a PC floppy disk to an Amiga (A500+) floppy? I have some adf games and I want to try them out on the A500+ but I do not have any A500+ floppies left!

>Even if I buy A500+ floppies I would still not be able to save the adf on my computer onto those floppies since then the PC would not support them! So what am I to do?

Hi Sim, you can try the Floppy Simulator here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320283041600

You won't have to transfer them over; you can just boot the Amiga 500+ with the ADF file you want (upto 128 tracks).  You can also transfer them over with this cable and software if you use the cable in conjunction with an external floppy drive.

>Also would adf files be read directly by the A500+ or I need some conversion tool?

ADFs are just sector by sector image of original disk (11 sectors/track*2 sides*80 tracks*512 bytes/sector = 880KB).  Sometimes, they contain more than 80 tracks, but the floppy simulator can handle from 1 track to 128 tracks.  A500 trackdisk software won't directly read files of ADFs unless you modify it.

[Dandy]

gertsy wrote:

As ADFs are 880KB you cannot transfer them "natively" to an Amiga on a PC Floppy Diskette.

Of course you can!
All you need for that is a splitter/joiner tool from Aminet.
Split your ADF into two, put the two parts on two PC formatted 3 1/2" disks (720 kB), access them on your Miggy via CrossDos (included in WB since v2.0, IIRC) and (re-)join the splitted parts there.

gertsy wrote:
 
The Amiga can certainly read 750KB PC Diskettes with cross dos (WB2.0+) but not 1.44MB diskettes.

I have to contradict here.
The Amiga CANNOT read 750KB PC Diskettes - no matter if with or without CrossDos - as such things as "750KB PC Diskettes" do not exist and never did!

floppy disk formats

And you can very well read and write 1440 kB PC formatted floppy disks (1760 kB if formatted in Amiga HD-format) on an Amiga - all you need for this is an (Amiga-compatible) HD floppy drive and CrossDos!
Works flawlessly here since over a decade!

3 1/2" disks on an PC can either have a capacity of 720 kB, 1440 kB, 1680 kB, 1720 kB or 2880 kB (most common being 720 kB and 1440 kB).

gertsy wrote:
 
BTW: You cannot format 750KB PC disks on WinXP or above.

Of course you are right - you cannot format 750 kB disks on any x86-PC - but you can format 720 kB.

Click on "Start - Execute", enter "cmd" and press "Enter".
A DOS window opens where you can type "format a: /f:720" and press "Enter". Other values for "f:" are e.g. 360 (5 1/4"), 1.2 (5 1/4") and 1.44 (3 1/2").
(precondition being that you have an appropriate floppy drive fitted to your PC)

gertsy wrote:
 
If you have a Win95/98PC you can format a PC Diskette at 750KB and read it on Amiga 500 with Workbench WB 2+ with cross dos.
...

No.
You can format 720 kB, but then you're not limited to Win95/98 PCs.

[darksun9210]

not being funny, but i haven't heard of anyone using those "floppy simulators".
and to be honest, a cable going directly from the amiga floppy port to a parallel/serial port on a PC? yeah, right oh. but unless someone is willing to try this and risk blowing up either their PC or amiga, a call shinanigans on that... as surely if it was that easy, we'd have had this nailed years ago?

looks to me like someone wants to get rid of a job lot of PC floppy cables, and made a botched job of the connections.  :-( (not that i would be able to do any better :lol: )

[terminator4]

null modem cable to write adf to your amiga 500 is the cheapest & good solution.

[sim085]

Yes I plan to buy one of these to share internet connection on my A500+ as well

[terminator4]

pm me if interested in one.   :-D

[terminator4]

uh internet?  nuts.  with 68000 this will be at best "slow". need 68060/68040 at least, maybe 68030.

[Colani1200]

pjhutch wrote:
To read Amiga disks on a standard PC is impossible as it cannot read 880K amiga disks.

In fact, it is possible with ADFread.  :-)

[arion]

I´ve read about using a null modem cable but i have never seen one so where might i get one ? Do i have to order one online or can i get one from any computer store ?

[darksun9210]

i think www.amigakit.co.uk have them... :-)