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Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« on: August 11, 2008, 11:44:08 AM »
Hi,

Is it possible to convert a PC floppy disk to an Amiga (A500+) floppy? I have some adf games and I want to try them out on the A500+ but I do not have any A500+ floppies left!

Even if I buy A500+ floppies I would still not be able to save the adf on my computer onto those floppies since then the PC would not support them! So what am I to do?

Also would adf files be read directly by the A500+ or I need some conversion tool?

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2008, 12:14:23 PM »
Simple ... get some more floppy discs

You CAN use 1.44mb labeled floppy discs in Amiga drives with no ill effects. The Amiga drive doesn't differentiate  between both types and formats both to Amiga's880kb' standard.

ADF files are a track by track copy of an original Amiga game and cannot be loaded as per an original game

What you should buy is an external drive (DF1:) for your A500+ because it makes dealing with ADF files so mach easier
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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 12:18:52 PM »
Sorry if I am asking again, did not understand your answer completely.

So I can just use 3 1/2 floppy disk of my PC as an Amiga floppy disk?

 

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2008, 12:32:37 PM »
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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2008, 12:32:55 PM »
To read Amiga disks on a standard PC is impossible as it cannot read 880K amiga disks.
You need a new floppy controller called the Catweasel which will allow the PC to read Amiga disks:

http://www.jschoenfeld.de/products/cwmk3_e.htm

There are various tools to create ADFs and convert ADFs to Disks:

http://www.pcguru.plus.com/uae_faq.html
 

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2008, 12:40:17 PM »
No No, it is the other way round :) I have some adf games on my PC. I want to play these adf games on my A500+. How can I do that? :)

(I think asking this question like this is better :)
 

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 12:50:23 PM »
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sim085 wrote:

So I can just use 3 1/2 floppy disk of my PC as an Amiga floppy disk?



are you talking about the disk ? or the disk  drive ?
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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2008, 12:53:13 PM »
hmmm, quite tricky.
i think iirc, WinUAE comes with software to be able to read/write ADF files to and from the amiga over a serial link between the PC and amiga?

or you could get a serial terminal package, boot the A500+ with a basic(!)minimal workbench, just to load the serial software, and adf2disk exe. something like twin express or something. its probably on an old magazine coverdisk if that helps. then you want something like "adf2disk" from aminet to write the copied adf file to floppy disk.

or "amiga forever" package with amiga explorer. that apparently can hook into an amiga over serial, and allow to you drag and drop files/adf's straight to and from the amiga and its floppy drives.

if you just have a basic 1meg A500+, then your options are fairly limited... having some kind of hard disk really opens up possibilities...

over the weekend i copied files to my A600, by pulling the drive out, bolting it into a USB2IDE adapter, plugging it into my PC, and running winUAE to mount the drive as a native amiga drive, and allow access to PC drives from within WinUAE. then i could drag and drop straight from the PC drives, to the amiga drive. take it out, and put it back into the A600... much faster than over serial...

ideally, you either want a CD drive on your amiga to read a CD full of software you've burnt off your PC, or the catweasel, or just shuffle drives. :)

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2008, 01:09:43 PM »
As ADFs are 880KB you cannot transfer them "natively" to an Amiga on a PC Floppy Diskette.  
The Amiga can certainly read 750KB PC Diskettes with cross dos (WB2.0+) but not 1.44MB diskettes.
 
BTW: You cannot format 750KB PC disks on WinXP or above.

If you have a Win95/98PC you can format a PC Diskette at 750KB and read it on Amiga 500 with Workbench WB 2+ with cross dos.
You could also zip or lha an ADF file to be less than 750KB (IE:Fits on a 750 diskette) But unless you have a Hard Disk on the Amiga 500 its going to be very dificult to reconstitute the ADF file to an 880K Amiga Diskette.

Options are TRANSADF or other cable based connections.

Basically if you just want to play a few Amiga 500 games on a standard 1MB amiga 500 you need an Amiga Buddy with a Hard Drive and CD Rom Amiga to create the A500 Games for you from your PC files. Thats the easiest.
 

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2008, 01:13:23 PM »
I bought a hard drive from eBay the other day so that should be coming soon. The next step I guess is to install Workbench on that hard drive. If I buy a Null Model then can I connect the A500+ to my Laptop and transfer all the software I need like that? or?
 

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2008, 01:13:23 PM »
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BTW: You cannot format 750KB PC disks on WinXP or above.


yes, you can, just some parameters are needed:

format a: /t:80 /n:9

(thanks Thomas and others for mentioning this earlier)

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2008, 01:37:16 PM »
Thanks to everyone for the comments ... but I am a little confused. I was hoping I could play some Amiga games easily but seems a much harder task.

I do not have a working workbench at the moment so I think I better start from there. From where can I buy the Amiga Workbench 3.1. I would be interested to later on buy the 3.9 version as well. At AmigaKit it seems the 3.1 Workbench is not for sale.

Also regarding the 'Serial Transfer Cable (PC to Amiga)'; is this the same cable I would need to share an internet connection from my PC to the A500+?
 

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2008, 01:46:49 PM »
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yes, you can, just some parameters are needed:

format a: /t:80 /n:9

(thanks Thomas and others for mentioning this earlier)

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Well I'll be you can do the same on Vista too.  thanks.

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Re: Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2008, 02:45:26 PM »
One of THESE could easily receive ADF files from your PC and write them to floppy disk for your A500+ :-)

(It's the way I'd go anyway :pint:)
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