mdwh2 wrote:
bloodline wrote:
All the Amiga did was bring together pre-existing technologies, the amiga just had exactly what the market needed in one single package.
The Amiga was first to bring it in a single package. The Iphone wasn't. (What does it bring in a single package?) It's Windows 95 - doing what other phones have done for years (including in a single package).
You are just arguing semantics, I notice you removed my criticism of the A1000.
Both Win95 and the Amiga did something special, bringing together technology, in a way the market needed. That is why they were popular.
Because the Phone/Mobile device market was stagnant... it has been around for about 10 years and companies had become obsessed with adding things like higher resolution cameras... without innovating or even giving the user what the user actually wants!
Not here in Europe it isn't.
I don't know what it's like in Europe, but I assume it's like the UK...
Phones have changed dramatically in the last 10 years, going from simple devices with only SMS and maybe WAP, to basically being mobile computing devices, with fast Internet connection, video, music, being able to run applications. That's on a bog-standard low end phone.
No, they added these features... they didn't integrate them.
The Iphone isn't bad, but in what sense has it revolutionised a "stagnant" market?
Every other phone manufacturer is now trying to make their phones more like the iPhone... We had insane demand worldwide, for the device.
People in the street are talking about the iPhone... I've not seen that happen in the mobile market for a long time if at all...
Why do things like "high resolution cameras" get dismissed as things no one wants, but being able to play music like an Ipod gets cited as a good thing?
The iPhone has a totally new user interface. It has fully integrated network functionality into the basic functionality of the device... Apps work together, the web browser is central to the functionality to the device. The App Store and iTunes store integration are unique... and Yes, it has a built in iPod, which is the worlds most popular media player, which is a nice value add.
The Market has traditionally been aimed at boring geeks who love to sprout off numbers and specs... Apple make devices for real people.
Where do you live? The mobile market has practically reached 100%. And whilst smartphones may be more a niche market, (a) the Iphone hasn't changed this (it's still mainly geeks that seem to talk about it), and (b) smartphones are not only used by "boring geeks".
The UK... and yes the Mobile Market is 100%... there is no way for a manufacturer to get an in... without something special... which Apple have managed to do.
Real people are talking about the iPhone... people are saying... "I was going to get an iPod, but I might as well get an iPhone". Real people can use the iPhone, I showed my HP 4510 to my grandparents a few years ago they were just confused by it... even my father (an engineer by trade), had little interest in the device... I showed these same people the iPhone, and they get it... even my grandmother who is now suffering from the early stages of Alzheimer's had no difficulty operating the device and even figured out the Photo app and looked at photos of my trip to Germany!
There is nothing innovative about the touchscreen (except perhaps that Apple use a capacitive screen and the others tend to use pressure sensitive screens)
But isn't multitouch the key point that's a recent development? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch says that the Iphone was the first phone to have multi-touch. So yes, I'll concede that this was an innovation, but it also means you can't say their interface was better with the same technology, when the technology had a fundamental distinction. And also there are other new phones that have multitouch now. As time progresses, phones become more advanced - that's always the case, there's always new phones coming out which are cutting edge the moment they are released. There's nothing special about the Iphone in the big picture.
Yeah, and this is why neither you or I work in that industry... we don't have the vision to make the iPhone... Unlike the other Phone Manufactures, Apple never stand still, they can't afford to.
As stated by in the Apple Technology conferences... that was a design decision... It was a feature that needed more time to develop and the decision was to leave it out of V2.0 and focus on feature that would be more useful to the general public.
The more I hear about it, the more it gets worse. Not having copy and paste is a _design decision_? I don't need a phone that makes those sorts of design decisions.
No, you don't, the iPhone wasn't made for you!! It was made for real people who don't use smart phones!
Apple designs it's technology for real people!
Because you are a computer geek, don't understand the concept of usability. The iPhone integrates these features into a single usable package. the iPhone's internet browser is about a billion years ahead of any other mobile device!!! I don't even bother with turning real computers on any more!!!
As a computer geek, I am most certainly aware of UI concepts. It's Iphone lovers who claim it has a better UI, but are suspiciously never able to explain how it is better. Phones have been combining these features into a single usable package for years.
I explained over and over again... it's a natural interface, it works the way real people work, people who don't care about computers... technology... specs... The iPhone doesn't even have have menus or access to the underlying file system!! Everything is designed around the user and not the underlying technology!!! You don't need to care how or why the phone works... it just does!
The Iphone's browser isn't any better than that on many smartphones - and even bog standard phones can run Opera Mini now, anyway.
This is just wrong... Not one single review of the iPhone, has ever said the Browser is no better than any other phone... in fact even the most negative iPhone reviews have said they iPhone web browser is a shining beacon in a sea of terrible browsers...
The iPhone is the most used mobile web browser, despite the iPhone not having the biggest market share!!!!
