AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3

[nyteschayde]

OK, V1.0 is released.

Is this the installer? Where is the link?

[Minuous]

Yes.

[Akiko]

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[tomazkid]

comparing the Moana files with BB3, is unfair.

I didn't have the time to reply to tomazkid at aw.net but once for all ... the Moana files were STOLEN along the laptop that stored them. This is ALL another matter.

well, ianal but this is how the EU laws look at this.

You have the right to modify files and programs for your own use, but you don't have the right to distribute the modified files. (unless the license says otherwise.)

So let's say I modify my own OS4 cd to run on a Macmini,  legal as long as I don't distribute it.
That was where the Moana comparison comes in.

What Piru has written in this thread is worth a reading as well.
No fun to read, but that is how the laws look like at the moment, laws written for analog technology does not work too well with the digital world, but as long the laws are not changed, this is what the situation looks like.

[kolla]

So will amigaworld.net also block any discussion on OS3.9 and remove links to anyone selling OS3.9 that comes with pirated AmiTCP (aka Genesis)?

Btw... would it make sense to have some sort of bugtracker/improvement wishes for Classic 68k AmigaOS? I have a few wishes myself, but no idea where to address them.

One quite recent example is ForceNewLook that I had to dig out from some old MagicMenu-1.x archive, it enforces newlook menus (black on white) in for example console.device. First of all it would be nice if console.device could finally at last switch to newlook menus as default itself, and secondly it would be nice with romable ForceNewLook.

[tomazkid]

So will amigaworld.net also block any discussion on OS3.9 and remove links to anyone selling OS3.9 that comes with pirated AmiTCP (aka Genesis)?

Btw... would it make sense to have some sort of bugtracker/improvement wishes for Classic 68k AmigaOS? I have a few wishes myself, but no idea where to address them.

One quite recent example is ForceNewLook that I had to dig out from some old MagicMenu-1.x archive, it enforces newlook menus (black on white) in for example console.device. First of all it would be nice if console.device could finally at last switch to newlook menus as default itself, and secondly it would be nice with romable ForceNewLook.

No, general discussion of BB3 is still allowed, direct links are not.
Regarding OS 3.9 cd, well, we deal with that if necessary, until then it will pass.
Is the Genesis that comes with OS 3.9 really pirated btw?
links please, I am not too familiar with that myself.

You need to bear in mind that aw.net server is located in France, and we need to respect the French laws in particular, and EU laws in general, not an easy task always, but we need to do it.

[kolla]

No, general discussion of BB3 is still allowed, direct links are not.
Regarding OS 3.9 cd, well, we deal with that if necessary, until then it will pass.
Is the Genesis that comes with OS 3.9 really pirated btw?
links please, I am not too familiar with that myself.

Sure, http://www.amigau.com/aig/amigaos39.html under "critisism".

You need to bear in mind that aw.net server is located in France, and we need to respect the French laws in particular, and EU laws in general, not an easy task always, but we need to do it.

From my understanding and experience, the French has a very pragmatic attitude towards laws, also historically, so this statement is sort of funny. No offence

[tomazkid]

Sure, http://www.amigau.com/aig/amigaos39.html under "critisism".



From my understanding and experience, the French has a very pragmatic attitude towards laws, also historically, so this statement is sort of funny. No offence

Thanks for the link. :-)

No offence taken, this might illustrate our view perhaps :-D

http://i.imgur.com/XJthe.jpg

We just don't want any Hadopi effect on our server. ;-)

[Gulliver]

Well, as you all probably know by now that BoingBag 3 project has been finalized. As someone suggested, it could not transform itself into a moving target any longer, and thus a never ending project goal. So we had put some sense on it and declare it finished.
But this doesnt mean that the idea of enhancing, updating and bugfixing AmigaOS 3.9 has ended. In fact it means we have to start again, with a new BoingBag, now named unofficial BoingBag 4. I believe there is still many things to improve on AmigaOS 3.9, and by the way we already have the first entry, a bugfix for icon.library.
Of course, as usual, you can get the latest updates and information on BoingBag 4

Happy New Year!

[dannyp1]

Here we go again.  And Argo, just where was it you got your law degree to be such an expert on what is legal.  You had better also ban everyone from going on EBay because I see illegal roms for sale on there every day (but gee, they never seem to get shut down.  What do they know that you don't).  And there's that Amiga hardware site with all the installation disks.  They are all legal?  They also never get shut down.  Why is it that Amiga.org is the only place the web police are lying in wait to do away with?

[Gulliver]

Okay, the Unofficial Boing Bag 4 got an update:

MooVid 1.7 beta
This is the last version of the popular 68k video player available. It contains, even more bugfixes and supported codecs.

For this and BoingBag 3 information and downloads go to:

http://lilliput.host-cafe.com

[Gulliver]

BoingBag 4 got new updates:

Canon BJC6000 (and possibly other Canon 720x720) printer drivers. Written for OS3.5/3.9
Includes limited support for photo printhead, and text mode printing.



Epson_Colour_45.lha is a colour printer driver for the  Epson Stylus Colour printers.
It should work with the Stylus S20, D120 or Cx0 series which also supports 1440 dpi.


For more information, patches and updates, visit http://lilliput.host-cafe.com

[mike-]

Right, i set out to install this thing. I found that using InstallerNG was the only working installer , the original wouldnt have it, InstallerNG gave a few errors, then stalled completely at 96%?

[Gulliver]

How odd! I have just installed it withouth any problems at all.
I am using the 3.9 installer.
Maybe you have an older version. type on a cli window "version sys:utilities/installer", it should be version 44.10

Hope it helps

[mike-]

Indeed the installer in sys:utilities is 44.10 , however the one i have marked as original in sys:c is 39.something. No complaints using 44.10, but is choosing "other" correct when running on an 060?

[Gulliver]

Make sure you are using 44.10, as it will be more compatible. It should work without issues on a 060. So delete the old one you have in C: