New run of Guru Book cancelled due to pirate copy in circulation

[Sig999]

In a time when it seems like I'm fighting collectors left and right and searching the web for documents and info for developing, this book seemed like it would be a godsend - a lot of the info in one place.

That said - I respect the mans decision, and can see where he's coming from.  I hope at some point he changes his mind.

Positivity may not change the future - but negativity certainly will.

[EvilGuy]

kolla wrote:
So why is it cancelled? I dont really see the answer there.

Ralph's got a bug up his butt because some idiot distributed an early version of his work.

Typical Amiga state-of-play. I expected more from Ralph, but this isn't the first time an Amiga developer has cracked the sh*ts over "hurt pride".

[Matt_H]

@ HenryCase

Signatures 28-29 appear to be duplicates.

[HenryCase]

Matt_H wrote:
@ HenryCase

Signatures 28-29 appear to be duplicates.

Good spot, thanks Matt_H. I've e-mailed the website technical support people so they can help me remove the duplicate.

There are over 85 legitimate signatures now. If we get over 169 signatures we can prove that the torrent of the book hasn't affected the possibility of a print run, as that is the number of people who e-mailed their support when the new print run was announced in 2007. Considering the petition has only been going for about a day we are on target for this, but I would ask again that if you put your name down on the list started in this thread please sign the petition as well so we can make the message that we want this book printed loud and clear. Thanks.

[HenryCase]

*Bump*
I don't like repeating myself again and again, so I'll make this brief. Over 110 signatures now. 170 signatures is the target so please sign the petition if you haven't done so (and if you'd like to see the book published, naturally!).

http://www.petitiononline.com/4m1ga123/petition.html

[Phantom]

1. TjLaZer
2. AltRN8
3. CountZero
4. Hans
5. tiffers
6. Tahoe
7. AmigaDave
8. AmigaHeretic
9. madsjm
10. MrZammler
11. Firedawg
12. Marcb
13. buzz
14. OSS542
15. Andeda
16. A6000
17. Splurge
18. Trekie_J
19. CaptainMooMoo
20. Matt_H
21. Gavilan
22. Fester
23. Nyle
24. ZeBeeDee
25. Webmany
26. Joe Torre (prepay=Y)
27. LoadWB (prepay=Y)
28. twizzle
29. nOw2
30. Cass
31. Jiminy
32. Codesmith
33. pVC
34. avanham
35. zurt
36. Phantom (Print that damn book, will ya?) :-D

[amigadave]

@Phantom, and any others that have not already signed the petition, here is the link again.

Adding your name to this list is no longer necessary and you should sign the petition instead.

[Phantom]

@ amigadave

I've already singed the petition a couple of days ago.

LOL... I got it, that's not necessary really... damn... my Amiga is killing me.... :-P

[AJCopland]

Signed.

[amigadave]

HenryCase wrote:
*Bump*
I don't like repeating myself again and again, so I'll make this brief. Over 110 signatures now. 170 signatures is the target so please sign the petition if you haven't done so (and if you'd like to see the book published, naturally!).

http://www.petitiononline.com/4m1ga123/petition.html

Only another 13 signatures needed to reach that 170 number.  I wonder if this is going to make any difference?

I would really rather have a book instead of a 3 ring binder with a bunch of pdf's inside, but if Ralph still refuses to publish, what are we to do?

He must realize that he is forcing those that oppose piracy to consider it when he refuses to publish his work.

Damn Pirates! :madashell:

[mike-]

 1. TjLaZer
2. AltRN8
3. CountZero
4. Hans
5. tiffers
6. Tahoe
7. AmigaDave
8. AmigaHeretic
9. madsjm
10. MrZammler
11. Firedawg
12. Marcb
13. buzz
14. OSS542
15. Andeda
16. A6000
17. Splurge
18. Trekie_J
19. CaptainMooMoo
20. Matt_H
21. Gavilan
22. Fester
23. Nyle
24. ZeBeeDee
25. Webmany
26. Joe Torre (prepay=Y)
27. LoadWB (prepay=Y)
28. twizzle
29. nOw2
30. Cass
31. Jiminy
32. Codesmith
33. pVC
34. avanham
35. zurt
36. Phantom (Print that damn book, will ya?)
37. Mike

[odin]

I'll throw another piece on the 'lame excuse' heap. It's not like someone who'd have bought the book is happy with a {bleep}ty DIY printout of a PDF. That works for school textbooks you only use once but not for a guide you are going to use a lot and for a long time (or just to have it being pretty on the bookshelf =).

[HenryCase]

amigadave wrote:
@Phantom, and any others that have not already signed the petition, here is the link again.

Adding your name to this list is no longer necessary and you should sign the petition instead.

It's true that Phantom already signed the petition, though I agree with you amigadave, if you're going to sign one thing to register your wish for the book then make it the petition as everyone (not just amiga.org users) can join in. It was the idea started in this thread that inspired me to create the petition, so really its continuing success should be seen as amiga.org-inspired success! :-D Thanks TjLaZer.

AJCopland wrote:
Signed.

Thanks AJCopland! I feel like a song...
[Bette Midler]Did you ever know that you're my hero...[/Bette Midler] Got to stop channeling the spirit of Bette Midler! :crazy:  :-D

odin wrote:
That works for school textbooks you only use once but not for a guide you are going to use a lot and for a long time (or just to have it being pretty on the bookshelf =).

You're right, a book is so much nicer to work with.

amigadave wrote:
Only another 13 signatures needed to reach that 170 number.  I wonder if this is going to make any difference?

Make that 0 signatures needed! 171 signatures, we did it, well done people! Of course please still sign the petition if you still haven't done so and would like the book, every signature counts in our favour. I will now be e-mailing Ralph so that I can tell him how much his book still means to the Amiga community. The final publication decision still lies with him, but collectively we have shown that we'd much rather support the book author than the pirate.

[Golem!dk]

And 217 people have downloaded the pdf so far.

[HenryCase]

Golem!dk wrote:
And 217 people have downloaded the pdf so far.

Considering how hard it is to get the real thing, it could be a panic driven decision, like 'if I don't get it now, I might never get the chance again'. The current state of affairs with the newly revised book only exacerbates this situation.

However, given the choice, what would you choose: a newly revised and improved book, or an old and poor quality pdf? No contest is there. Time will tell whether we get that choice.

[Fats]

Golem!dk wrote:
And 217 people have downloaded the pdf so far.

I am one of those 217. But as I also have the dead tree version of the English Guru book I don't consider myself a pirate. I actually wanted to see what all the hype was about.
And no, I'm not selling the dead tree version; the book is not in a sellable state anymore anyway

greets,
Staf.